It uses the same Citra and Amarillo hops you’ll find in their regular pale ale, only here they’ve been dialled up. But it also has rye in it and that, as much as anything, is this beer’s defining character. In the interests of comparison, we asked a couple of Sydney brewers of US-style rye ales what might be a "usual" amount of rye to use in a beer and somewhere in the area of 10 to 20 percent seemed to be a bit of a sweet spot. This is due to rye being a bit fiddly to brew with in a technical sense and, from a flavour perspective, the more rye you use the more spicy characters you’ll get. That 4 Pines’ effort uses 50 percent rye lets you know the brewers haven’t been afraid to hold back or put in the hard yards; apparently, this beer holds the unwanted mantle as having been the longest single brew day in 4 Pines’ history: 18 hours, which is more than double a standard brew day.