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[Stu Brew]

Kinda brown slightly raised patch on the underside of the leaf. That leaf was pretty buggered, and it was the same one that the numerous small green caterpillars were on.

I might just leave the leaves there for now and either spray the fuckers or pull them off as I see them, if they're busy attacking those low leaves at least they aren't attacking the ones further up the bine.

How big is it now....id be all for just pulling anything on the lower effected places off and burning them. They are only the early leaves anyways. Which is why im thinking they may have been attacked. Sorry for so many questions. How long has it been in the ground or is it just planted rhizome this season?

 

[MartinOC]

Looks like great stuff! Will consider the offer, thanks. If a few folks from nearish to me want some we could likely save a bit on postage...

Mick, I've had a chat with Stu & will go for 10 rolls.

Want to combine forces/postage?

 

[Rocker1986]

How big is it now....id be all for just pulling anything on the lower effected places off and burning them. They are only the early leaves anyways. Which is why im thinking they may have been attacked. Sorry for so many questions. How long has it been in the ground or is it just planted rhizome this season?

Pretty much the same size as it was yesterday or whenever it was I spotted it. The small caterpillars had all disappeared off it last time I looked too.

This plant is a second year Hallertau plant. It was in a pot last year but I moved it to a bigger home over the winter. The other plant being affected although nowhere near as much is a first year Cascade. The second year Fuggle that I left in its pot has hardly been touched by these things. Maybe they all hang out in the area of the yard where the other two plants are.

I had small amounts of attacks on the early growth leaves last season as well and the plants were not affected by it, so they should be alright.

Some piece of **** chewed the end off one of the bines that was also making its way up a line, it has now sprouted again from where it was cut off and is slowly making its way up again. Hopefully it gets left alone this time <_<

 

[doctr-dan]

Finally got some wires up, just using left overs

 

[Bruer]

My second year cascades are starting to go nuts. POR lagging a bit. 1st year kracanup and Goldings yet to pop up.

 

[Stu Brew]

Pretty much the same size as it was yesterday or whenever it was I spotted it. The small caterpillars had all disappeared off it last time I looked too.

This plant is a second year Hallertau plant. It was in a pot last year but I moved it to a bigger home over the winter. The other plant being affected although nowhere near as much is a first year Cascade. The second year Fuggle that I left in its pot has hardly been touched by these things. Maybe they all hang out in the area of the yard where the other two plants are.

I had small amounts of attacks on the early growth leaves last season as well and the plants were not affected by it, so they should be alright.

Some piece of **** chewed the end off one of the bines that was also making its way up a line, it has now sprouted again from where it was cut off and is slowly making its way up again. Hopefully it gets left alone this time <_<

Try planting some Basil aroudn the bases of the effected ones. The smell from Basil confuses a lot of bugs....so they will keep away from it? I think you'll be alright, once they start actually growing quickly...has been a long cold winter which is weird for Australia!

 

[Stu Brew]

Digital Giraffe - Thats Classic Nitrogen deficiency - your soil pH is probably way too low and you're locking out the N

Rocker - Not sure looks like a mosaic virus or possibly Calcium deficiency??

heres a link for a visual guide, not best pics but its ok.

Feel free to get a second opinion from a real horticulturalist.

Only mature leaves will show signs of diseases....but hey....you're a real horticulturalist....you didnt even ask about soil pH which is where any calcium deficiency would be coming in. Guess this is why people are listening to your advice? Over the actual qualified guys....... Good try though....you'll finish cert 2 eventually!!

 

[BottloBill]

Only mature leaves will show signs of diseases....but hey....you're a real horticulturalist....you didnt even ask about soil pH which is where any calcium deficiency would be coming in. Guess this is why people are listening to your advice? Over the actual qualified guys....... Good try though....you'll finish cert 2 eventually!!

pfft!

 

[BottloBill]

You really can't speak for the whole of Australia, We didn't really see any kind of winter here in Newcastle TBH. I would say a colder than usual ground temp is the cause of most late showings.

 

[Stu Brew]

pfft!

Elaborate please.....Cause pfffft....I am talking hops plants...if your **** has deficiencies and diseases at this stage...RIP THEM UP AND BIN THEM....so you dont screw the whole industry! Best advice I can give you....dont try 'fix' them....cause it wont work. In horticulture the advice you would get is....if something doesnt like where its growing...pull it up and try again somewhere else...Its quite simple....

 

[BottloBill]

So your trying to tell me you went through testing of rhizome pathogens when you collected all your root stock for your yard? I can honestly say you have done well with your setup despite the serving you got from certain members when you started out. I can also honestly say you have a massive chip as a result and you just don't know when to lie down.....build a bridge and move on bloke!

 

[BottloBill]

Oh please tell me what's wrong with my Cascade

 

[Stu Brew]

Oh please tell me what's wrong with my Cascade

A. Pots WAY to small.

B. Should have multiple shoots at that height.

C. Probably wont get you more than 200g of hops.

Just my advice.....but yeah I have 160 in the ground....at least you're trying!!

Im impressed though....1 plants a good start!

Make sure you give it some good slow release Nitrogen at that height...Neutrong Seamungus is a good option in pellets. That should help boost it...and im talking 2kgs now and then 2-3kgs when its at 6 foot

Got to string this lot in the next week....then ferts then mulch....guess its a bit different for me. Honestly though get them into the ground...they just dont like pots...they want to run and climb under and above the ground...Best way to keep them healthy imo.

 

[Stu Brew]

Some of my spares in the hothouse look about that big atm!

Soil is still not warm enough for big movement here. Has been a strange season. They will boost soon, as soon as the soil hits temp they'll be up 6m before I can blink a few times.

Coir is good as an early medium helps to create some new fibrous roots especially if you're adding things like worm tea and vitamins. Young plants thrive on things other than NPK nutrients. The reason I use coir is because its sustainble and its washed of heavy metals and EC checked. Always in that case at the perfect pH for Hops and holds enough water but cant hold to much! Great stuff. We raise all our veg seeds here in the same stuff.

Size at this stage isnt that much chop.....I know its cool, but we're still a long way from Summer Solstice for a hops plant

(edit more info on coir)

 

[BottloBill]

A. Pots WAY to small.

B. Should have multiple shoots at that height.

C. Probably wont get you more than 200g of hops.

Just my advice.....but yeah I have 160 in the ground....at least you're trying!!

Im impressed though....1 plants a good start!

Make sure you give it some good slow release Nitrogen at that height...Neutrong Seamungus is a good option in pellets. That should help boost it...and im talking 2kgs now and then 2-3kgs when its at 6 foot

Got to string this lot in the next week....then ferts then mulch....guess its a bit different for me. Honestly though get them into the ground...they just dont like pots...they want to run and climb under and above the ground...Best way to keep them healthy imo.

That's just one of many lol.....I am by no means a commercial grower nor do I have the room for it. That particular plant is a first year and suffered from use of a slow release fertiliser believe it or not.
I started using fish emulsion on it a week ago!!!! Here check out the Chinook section this season....cute ha!

 

[mofox1]

I'm going to go have a beer now, you guys should too...

 

[BottloBill]

I'm going to go have a beer now, you guys should too...

sounds good....but I don't drink when I'm working please have an ale for me please

 

[Camo6]

I'm going to go have a beer now, you guys should too...

Sounds like some already have...

 

[Stu Brew]

That's just one of many lol.....I am by no means a commercial grower nor do I have the room for it. That particular plant is a first year and suffered from use of a slow release fertiliser believe it or not.
I started using fish emulsion on it a week ago!!!! Here check out the Chinook section this season....cute ha!

Can you do me one favor and check your soil pH. Im not tring to have a dick swinging comp on this stuff. I genuinely want to see people growing kilos in their back yards!! pH is the key to soil....soil health is the key to good plants! Im not trying to have arguments....I have legit run my own Hort business for over a decade before i bought a property and started growing hops. Im really stoked to be specialising in something(hort is stupid, you're floundering until you have a specialty).

pH.....Number 1 thing you look at. Get it between 5.5-6.8 for hops. Sulphate of Ammonia will really help a lot of you guys not worried about organic lowers pH fast and is a GREAT source of nitrogen.

Other than that to lower pH you can use sulphur but it takes a while.

Hops also do not like built up salts in the soil....so anything like i just said. Sulphate of Ammonia is not a LONG TERM solution to pH. You need to look at your soils pH content your local water.

All in all. In the real world of Horticulture. If I had plants showing deficiencys early....I would just do what I do and ignore it. If the plant was healthy the year before...and if you have checked you pH and done all the rest of it....you shouldnt be worried....potentially and experienced horticulturalists know this....leaves on plants can exibit all sorts of weird and wonderful 'deficiencies' if you're only looking for them, and not thinking well it was 4° the other night...my hops wont really be to keen on that....as 3 foot juniors!

 

[Rocker1986]

Try planting some Basil aroudn the bases of the effected ones. The smell from Basil confuses a lot of bugs....so they will keep away from it? I think you'll be alright, once they start actually growing quickly...has been a long cold winter which is weird for Australia!

I think they're ok now, that Success spray looks to have done the job on the caterpillars (as it did last year too), I've been checking the plants every day and haven't seen any return. On the packaging it says it keeps working as a residual thing as well so maybe that's why. I'll spray them periodically until they start really taking off. I think once they start growing properly they'll be alright too, they were last year. Even when the grasshoppers moved in they didn't really do much damage because the plants were growing so vigorously anyway. The winter here wasn't particularly cold but the weather is up and down a bit at the moment. We have a few days in the high 20s then it decides to go back to low 20s... I'll just be glad when it stabilises and stays warm.

I have noticed a few little black spots on the underside of some leaves that look like bugs, wondering if it might be worth giving them a bit of white oil just in case they're mites or something.