Windows 7 dramas

[zappa]

I used to hate Microsoft with a passion. These days, I still hate them, just not with as much passion. That's now reserved for Apple. In reality though, Microsoft and Apple are bed buddies. I just take comfort knowing that their time as tech super powers is coming to an end, and it's all thanks to their lock-in, bully style business tactics.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Used to **** me, worked on linux red hat based voicemail systems, but when they started to export a VM as an audio file to intergrate into an email via Outlook. Do you think Outlook would accept an industry standard audio file.....no...it had to have "propriety controls" simply because the VM wasnt an M$ system...

And to think most of the worlds supercomputers use a linux/unix OS and the the leading telephony switches use a unix/linux or propriety OS because they just dont trust a M$ system not to lock-up. Not to mention the ongoing hidden charges that the ***** write into the contracs.

But then again.....Mixrosoft are starting to see that they dropped the ball ( especially mobile devices & tablets ) and I think they are a bit scared that there market share is gone. ...And as for Apple....

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[zappa]

Yes, that was very typical of Microsoft. These days, they've come to realise they need to interoperate with other platforms and the landscape is much better in that respect. But, they're still standover men and extortionists. For every Android phone sold, they get a nice slab for royalties (as much as $20 per phone from some vendors, apparently). They also teamed up with Apple, Sony, Blackberry and Ericsson to form Rockstar Consortium - a company who's sole purpose is to dismantle and inspect devices from other companies to determine how many of their jointly owned patents the device potentially violates, then either extract royalties or sue. Many people believe it was formed solely to destroy Google and its Android partners, and given recent lawsuits filed, this seems to hold some weight. They've not tried to hide the fact that they'd continue to pursue different avenues to attack Android and Open Source in general, because litigation is where their primary revenue streams are likely to come from in the future.

 

[Crusty]

Still no luck.
I'm almost ready to admit defeat & take it in to the computer tech dude.

 

[zappa]

OK. Here's the problem. grub can't boot Windows directly. It needs to "chainload" the Windows bootloader in order to boot into Windows. The Windows bootloader normally lives in the MBR, but that's where grub now resides, so the Windows bootloader has effectively been clobbered. To get back into Windows u may want to take it in to a Windows tech. Once you're back in, with a little care, you can have another go at fixing grub.

Basically, for a dual boot Windows/Linux system, you've got two choices ;

1. Use the Windows bootloader to chainload grub. In this scenario, you install grub to one of your partitions, not to the MBR.

2. Take a backup of your MBR containing the Windows bootloader, install grub to your MBR, then chainload Windows by pointing grub to the MBR backup you took earlier. Involves placing the backup somewhere grub can access it. A good place is on the Linux /boot filesystem.

In the past, I've used both methods, but the 1st is by far the safest & easiest because you're leaving the MBR well alone. Two bootloaders must exist. Leave the MBR to the inflexible one.

Anyway, sorry I couldn't be of more help. At this stage, you'll want a Windows tech to get your Windows bootloader repaired. They need know nothing about Linux.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

attacking Android and Open Source in general, because litigation is where their primary revenue streams are likely to come from in the future.

Yep. The SCO group v the rest if the world and funded by Micro$oft.

At one stage they wanted a cut of every financial transaction that was made thru a Micro$oft box. They have also threatened governments who did not want to use there software with huge lawsuits

They also like to create there own standards instead of those set ny industry & governing bodies. IE is a case in point.

The truly are a bunch of ***** hell bent on totall domination and control at any cost

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Ok getting back on topic.

You may need your originall install disk ( or whatever came with your PC ) or download a rescue disk off the net

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33433/restore-the-windows-boot-loader-after-an-ubuntu-update/

https://neosmart.net/wiki/recovering-windows-bootloader/

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873884

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader

 

[Cube]

Sorry...but I have a dislike for M$ and the way they conduct business....

Yes - I can see your still very troubled by this. Even in your 'adulthood'.




h34r:

 

[Toper]

Yes - I can see your still very troubled by this. Even in your 'adulthood'.




h34r:

And your entire 2 comments in this thread have been incredibly helpful and incisive Cube.

 

[Crusty]

Thank you all for taking the time to help me out.
I ended up getting a repair disk & booting from bios & let it run. It detected that windows was there
but still failed to allow it to boot.
I ran the command promp to try & fix the boot or mbr. I typed in these below.

bootrec.exe /fixmbr
bootsect.exe /nt60 all /force
bootrec.exe /rebuildbcd

It seemed that nothing actually worked at first so I ejected the disk & restarted the computer. At restart, it said loading windows & what do you know, it was back.
4 days & 3nights of pulling my hair out & it was a 5 minute fix. Windows is **** but i'm too scared to look at Ubuntu again for a while.
Cheers fellas.

 

[zappa]

Yep, it's always easy when you know how.

Anyway, if you ever try to get Ubuntu going again in the future and you screw up the Windows bootloader, now you'll know how to fix it!

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Just use your usb stick for ubuntu

Now you have win up and running do a defrage and chkdisk on it. And use the win 7 disk utility to resize and partition your drive and install ubuntu into the spare unformated partion

Have a read of the tutorials for installing ubuntu again.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

It seemed that nothing actually worked at first so I ejected the disk & restarted the computer. At restart, it said loading windows & what do you know, it was back.

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Thats because it would have fixed the bootloader but needed to restarted so the bios could read it. Once the pc is running it will not go back to the bios.

 

[Cube]

And your entire 2 comments in this thread have been incredibly helpful and incisive Cube.

You're welcome. Anytime.