Armstrong said:
Hey Doc,
Of course I don't expect you to take my word for it, but that Wetpak is a great beer as it is ... but that doesn't mean you can't play with it.
Full boil would be great, and some extra Cascade is alway a plus in my book but be careful how much ... there is already 60g of hops in that brew start to finish ... maybe a little later in the boil will tend a bit more towards flavour rather than bitterness.
These kits are an introduction for many into extract brewing that do produce great beers ... but that doesn't make them ammune to experimentation ... go for it!
You know the rules ... there are no rules!
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Cheers Armstrong. I'm sure the base APA produces a great beer and I do take your word for it

But of course you know me, and I'm always looking to experiment a little.
So currently mashing in two thermos's is some Trad Ale, Melanoidin and the grain pack that came with the kit.
Will be filling the boiler shortly with water and the extract and firing up the burner. As for additional hop additions.
Feeding the numbers through Promash and making some wild assumptions I've come up with the following.
Doc's TCB APA WetPak Bastardised Version
A ProMash Recipe Report
BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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06-A American Pale Ales, American Pale Ale
Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.056
Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 40
Min Clr: 8 Max Clr: 22 Color in EBC
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 22.00 Wort Size (L): 22.00
Total Extract (kg): 3.84
Anticipated OG: 1.052 Plato: 12.77
Anticipated EBC: 12.2
Anticipated IBU: 36.4
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 10.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 24.44 L
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.046 SG 11.54 Plato
Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.
Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager
Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %
Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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78.0 3.00 kg. Coopers LME - Light Australia 1.038 7
11.6 0.44 kg. JWM Traditional Ale Malt Australia 1.038 7
6.5 0.25 kg. Hoepfner Melanoidin Germany 1.037 40
3.9 0.15 kg. JWM Caramalt Australia 1.036 56
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.
Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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30.00 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 24.0 60 min.
28.00 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 7.5 20 min.
30.00 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 4.8 10 min.
Extras
Amount Name Type Time
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1.00 Tsp Irish Moss Fining 15 Min.(boil)
Yeast
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White Labs WLP005 British Ale
Notes
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Based on the Country Brewer (TCB) American Pale Ale WetPak. Added the Trad
Ale, Melanoidin grains to the grains that came with the kit (150gr CaraMalt
or similar cyrstal ???) and mashed in two thermos's.
Additional hops (Cascade added at 20 mins).
Hoping the additional grains give the beer a bit more body, flavour and complexity. The additional hops to account for the additional grains and body.
Beers,
Doc