Stc 1000 Temp Controller

[goomboogo]

Bada Bing Brewery and Michael Aussie; you have referred to posts by brown hound but you have called him browndog. They are different people. These guys may not mind but some may get a little upset if their name is used regarding the wiring of electrical items when in fact they had nothing to do with the information. Just saying.

 

[Bada Bing Brewery]

Bada Bing Brewery and Michael Aussie; you have referred to posts by brown hound but you have called him browndog. They are different people. These guys may not mind but some may get a little upset if their name is used regarding the wiring of electrical items when in fact they had nothing to do with the information. Just saying.

Honest mistake - apologies

 

[wood88]

Wood88, yours was by far the easiest to follow for me, not sure if it was the way the set it out or detail etc, I took one look and went "I get it".

Great job mate and thanks for taking the time to share with us :beerbang:

Edit: did you know that they are using your drawing overseas, your almost famous!

How dare they oh well at least they acknowledging they got it from ahb
and i guess the main fact of the drawing was to help people out in wiring these controllers and it seems to be doing its job. :icon_cheers:

 

[Malted]

#Wades into it with the benefit of a few bevies under the belt#

Do you often see chefs saying, no you shouldn't cook because if you don't get the core temp above 70oC you won't kill the bugs and they'll kill you man. Eat at a restaurant, get a qualified chef!
Will they share secret knowledge: you see plenty of recipes floating around.

Do you see chippies saying, nah man saws and stuff have teeth, if you don't know what a mitre joint is man they'll take your hand off, get a qualified carpenter.
Will they share secret knowledge: I see plenty of clearly drawn construction diagrams and plans around.

Do you see welders saying if you don't know the difference between ferrous metals and non ferrous metals you shouldn't be welding. Welders can burn you, send you blind and use high amps man and they'll kill you quick smart. Get a qualified welder to do it for you!
Will they share secret knowledge: I see a few blokes saying run low amps and direct the weld to the thicker material.

Do you see a taxi driver saying, if you don't know where it is man, you shouldn't be driving there, you might be in an accident and get killed. Get a qualified (?) driver, catch a cab! Will they share secret knowledge: Refidex, Sat nav etc...

Do you see a sparky saying, if you don't understand the wiring diagram, you'll get fried. It's not worth it man. Get a qualified electrician to do it for you!
Will they share secret knowledge: Yes but wiring daigrams are like some sort of secret language that you need advanced knowledge to interpret. Do they sprook gobledegook that average Joe Bloe can't understand when they do offer advice?


There's plenty of shiite that can potentially kill you, if you don't do it correctly. Clear and precise instructions that are aimed at the every day person in a language they can understand, so he/she can save a few bucks and complete a simple job (if he/she had good advice)...

Just saying...
(smile inserted to convey sense of good natured shit stirring intent. However, it is probably going to make some folks very angry, maybe not people who are not sparkies).

 

[michael_aussie]

Bada Bing Brewery and Michael Aussie; you have referred to posts by brown hound but you have called him browndog. They are different people. These guys may not mind but some may get a little upset if their name is used regarding the wiring of electrical items when in fact they had nothing to do with the information. Just saying.

ooops,, ty for pointing that out.
sorry brown hound and brown dog.

it's frustrating that after a short period of time, you can't you edit your own posting here...
why is that?????

 

[Wolfy]

I was going to get another Fridgemate for my new (approaching) fridge - My current Fridgemate is dead reliable and seems to know what it's doing - what would be the advantages of a STC 1000? I don't need heating - far from it, being coastal SEQ.

How much is the unit? It seems to be similar to the Fridgemate in the wiring exercise.

Same concept, same function, if you can wire one you can wire the other, no real differences there.
The STC 1000 comes from Ebay at about 1/3 the price, but you also get what you pay for, including no warranty or fall-back. Having said that there seems to be a large number of people here who use them and I've not noticed one complaint.

I do prefer the adjustment/function control on the STC 1000, it just seems a bit easier to use when compared to my Tempmate.

 

[mh971]

#Wades into it with the benefit of a few bevies under the belt#

Do you often see chefs saying, no you shouldn't cook because if you don't get the core temp above 70oC you won't kill the bugs and they'll kill you man. Eat at a restaurant, get a qualified chef!
Will they share secret knowledge: you see plenty of recipes floating around.

Do you see chippies saying, nah man saws and stuff have teeth, if you don't know what a mitre joint is man they'll take your hand off, get a qualified carpenter.
Will they share secret knowledge: I see plenty of clearly drawn construction diagrams and plans around.

Do you see welders saying if you don't know the difference between ferrous metals and non ferrous metals you shouldn't be welding. Welders can burn you, send you blind and use high amps man and they'll kill you quick smart. Get a qualified welder to do it for you!
Will they share secret knowledge: I see a few blokes saying run low amps and direct the weld to the thicker material.

Do you see a taxi driver saying, if you don't know where it is man, you shouldn't be driving there, you might be in an accident and get killed. Get a qualified (?) driver, catch a cab! Will they share secret knowledge: Refidex, Sat nav etc...

Do you see a sparky saying, if you don't understand the wiring diagram, you'll get fried. It's not worth it man. Get a qualified electrician to do it for you!
Will they share secret knowledge: Yes but wiring daigrams are like some sort of secret language that you need advanced knowledge to interpret. Do they sprook gobledegook that average Joe Bloe can't understand when they do offer advice?


There's plenty of shiite that can potentially kill you, if you don't do it correctly. Clear and precise instructions that are aimed at the every day person in a language they can understand, so he/she can save a few bucks and complete a simple job (if he/she had good advice)...

Just saying...
(smile inserted to convey sense of good natured shit stirring intent. However, it is probably going to make some folks very angry, maybe not people who are not sparkies).

Malted you forgot to add Dentists and Surgeons to your lovely list, If they just gave free advice too then some of the poeple injured by DIYing all the other specialty skills you mentioned could have a shot at saving a few bucks on treatment too.

Clear and precise instructions just sometimes don't get through, Yes maybe you can do it, and maybe all your mates could too, but somewhere on here will be someone who couldn't and shouldn't. If I wasn't an electrican I would still do it, I know i would, but knowing what I know about people and electricity I can't aid and abet it.

This is only because over the years I have helped out mates and relatives with phone advice and given people sketches and have come to learn that you shouldn't make assumptions that all people have A) the level of required understanding to follow diagrams correctly, B ) the correct tools which make it easy, C) the dexterity to do what seems so easy to many.

I won't risk giving advice to a faceless stranger on a forum because you can't know people's capabilities.

If someone inadvertantly stuffs up the earth connection on a DIY project (clear instructions to leave earth un-cut I hear you say - I have seen earths cut 3/4 the way through by the knife used to strip the outer sheath and not noticed by the novice who did it) and a fault develops in the appliance (maybe years later) making it live, then the next person to touch it could be electrocuted. Not so bad if it's the dill who did it, not so good for their family though, and much much worse if the victim was a child.

People die or are injured every year in the examples you give above so clearly the risks are real. Best if people either do the proper research themselves in books and manuals and then decide, rather than be told here no worries do this you'll be right, we all did it.

 

[pimpsqueak]

Clear and precise instructions that are specifically created for a non-professional user are fine, but you can't ignore the fact that there is a percentage of clueless twits in every area of society. The mystery is, how the bloody hell do you identify them and ensure you don't give them any advice that may convince them that "She'll be right" and results in a trip to the emergency room. You may be able to gauge someones level of comprehension when you're face to face, but in a forum that will prove to be tricky indeed. Just saying...

 

[mh971]

Clear and precise instructions that are specifically created for a non-professional user are fine, but you can't ignore the fact that there is a percentage of clueless twits in every area of society. The mystery is, how the bloody hell do you identify them and ensure you don't give them any advice that may convince them that "She'll be right" and results in a trip to the emergency room. You may be able to gauge someones level of comprehension when you're face to face, but in a forum that will prove to be tricky indeed. Just saying...

Exactly,

I am envious of your succintness B) .

Our licensing Authority in SA puts out a magazine to all licensed plumbers, gas fitters and electricians and regularly shows examples of dangerous work done by clueless twits who actually managed to pass trade licensing exams and obtained a licence.

You would really want to know who you're taking advice from too, they may be the clueless twit. (in fairness I haven't noticed any bad electrical advice on here but just saying...)

 

[Amber Fluid]

I reckon the way I have put it together (like some other forum members) looks pretty neat, not like some flacid robo-octopus.

That's fine but when I get mine together you will see that it will be very similar and not a "flacid robo-octopus" either. Nevertheless, I love the terminology :super:

 

[browndog]

#Wades into it with the benefit of a few bevies under the belt#

Do you often see chefs saying, no you shouldn't cook because if you don't get the core temp above 70oC you won't kill the bugs and they'll kill you man. Eat at a restaurant, get a qualified chef!
Will they share secret knowledge: you see plenty of recipes floating around.

Do you see chippies saying, nah man saws and stuff have teeth, if you don't know what a mitre joint is man they'll take your hand off, get a qualified carpenter.
Will they share secret knowledge: I see plenty of clearly drawn construction diagrams and plans around.

Do you see welders saying if you don't know the difference between ferrous metals and non ferrous metals you shouldn't be welding. Welders can burn you, send you blind and use high amps man and they'll kill you quick smart. Get a qualified welder to do it for you!
Will they share secret knowledge: I see a few blokes saying run low amps and direct the weld to the thicker material.

Do you see a taxi driver saying, if you don't know where it is man, you shouldn't be driving there, you might be in an accident and get killed. Get a qualified (?) driver, catch a cab! Will they share secret knowledge: Refidex, Sat nav etc...

Do you see a sparky saying, if you don't understand the wiring diagram, you'll get fried. It's not worth it man. Get a qualified electrician to do it for you!
Will they share secret knowledge: Yes but wiring daigrams are like some sort of secret language that you need advanced knowledge to interpret. Do they sprook gobledegook that average Joe Bloe can't understand when they do offer advice?


There's plenty of shiite that can potentially kill you, if you don't do it correctly. Clear and precise instructions that are aimed at the every day person in a language they can understand, so he/she can save a few bucks and complete a simple job (if he/she had good advice)...

Just saying...
(smile inserted to convey sense of good natured shit stirring intent. However, it is probably going to make some folks very angry, maybe not people who are not sparkies).

Many years back I had a mate who was electrocuted at 21yrs of age, I wonder what his advice would be to the would-be electricians here.

-BD

 

[Malted]

#said in the sober light of day#
To be fair, Mick71 and Pimpsqueak make some valid points

 

[mwd]

Many years back I had a mate who was electrocuted at 21yrs of age, I wonder what his advice would be to the would-be electricians here.

-BD

I would think it is very much more difficult these days in modern buildings with circuit breakers instead of the old fuses. I can trip the circuit breaker just changing a light bulb.

+1 if you cannot read a circuit or wiring diagram then mucking around with electrics is definitely not for you.

 

[Brown_hound]

Many years back I had a mate who was electrocuted at 21yrs of age, I wonder what his advice would be to the would-be electricians here.

-BD

Sorry to hear bout your mate...

Could I ask how your bud got zapped? (without being callous)?

Probably a good idea the would-be's know how dangerous this 'electricity' stuff is...

The reality is, inside a switchboard for example, getting between 2 strips of copper can literally cook you in 3 seconds..

Can I advise those whom are seeking advice on this site to please either seek advice first and foremost from a mate who is a sparkie, or a member here who is one themselves (myself included...).

Advice is free from the right people, and none of us want fellow brewers getting hurt!

Hound.

 

[Brown_hound]

I'm with you mate. 100% agree with this. No way would I be switching 10A loads through one of these. I too own a couple, but they control a couple of fridges and one globe inside one of the fridges. The most current draw I get is somewhere around 170w. I have no qualms switching less than 1A at any one time...

You'd run a Birko or Crown urn with a $16 STC-1000 and expect it to last... I wouldn't...

Slave contactor or relay FTW

Also, use appropriate wiring for the job. 1mm sq flex may have a current carrying capacirty of 10A, but it will heat up and over time with extended periods of current draw, will most likely experience some form of insulation breakdown.

Nev

Read my earlier post... That or 2 more options.

1. Read the AS 3008 (cable selection) standard. Or;
2. Check the 'insulation breakdown' on your tv set or toaster...

 

[Brown_hound]

I would think it is very much more difficult these days in modern buildings with circuit breakers instead of the old fuses. I can trip the circuit breaker just changing a light bulb.

+1 if you cannot read a circuit or wiring diagram then mucking around with electrics is definitely not for you.

Circuit Breakers/Fuses, RCDs are very different cousins...

Contrary to common belief, circuit breakers are intended for one purpose... Protecting the physical wiring they're a part of... That, and the relevant attached appliances...

For protecting people and the like, Residual Current Devices are the commonly used medium. In short, leakage to earth of greater than 30mA causes the RCD to trip.

Both break a cir

 

[Amber Fluid]

That's fine but when I get mine together you will see that it will be very similar and not a "flacid robo-octopus" either. Nevertheless, I love the terminology :super:

Not too bad for a flacid robo-octopus if I must say so myself :beerbang:

 

[browndog]

Sorry to hear bout your mate...

Could I ask how your bud got zapped? (without being callous)?

Probably a good idea the would-be's know how dangerous this 'electricity' stuff is...

The reality is, inside a switchboard for example, getting between 2 strips of copper can literally cook you in 3 seconds..

Can I advise those whom are seeking advice on this site to please either seek advice first and foremost from a mate who is a sparkie, or a member here who is one themselves (myself included...).

Advice is free from the right people, and none of us want fellow brewers getting hurt!

Hound.

he was on a building site and grabbed a bare cable that had 11000V going though it. Died instantly. I know it's not the same as wiring up a controller, but it does not hurt to give people a solid reminder of the dangers of electricity.

-BD

 

[michael_aussie]

Not too bad for a flacid robo-octopus if I must say so myself :beerbang:

nice set up, but not a "flacid robo-octopus".

You only get a "flacid robo-octopus" if you wire in cables with female plugs for the heating and the cooling.

Technicially you actually get a "flacid robo-quadpus" (if you count the line in, the two lines out and the temperature probe).

 

[Nick JD]

All this worry about electrocution ... I'd be more worried about fire.