Ruthless Rye IPA

[philmud]

Morning all,

I'm all geared up to brew my first RIPA this weekend and have been planning on using this recipe for SNs Ruthless Rye IPA for a while: http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26124.

I haven't tried the commercial version of the beer, but wanted to brew a RIPA that used Amarillo and Chinook and this fit the bill.

So last night, I was looking at the hop bill, and the enormity of it (mostly the dry hops) has given me cold feet to an extent. The recipe is:

Ruthless Rye - American IPA 23L
ABV 6.71
OG: 1.062 FG: 1.011
IBUs 54.0 Colour: 29.4

Grain
5.79Kg pale malt
0.94kg rye malt
0.75kg crystal
0.06kg chocolate malt

Hops
33.7g Bravo (14%AA) First Wort Hop - 54 IBU
36g Chinook (11.4%AA) flame-out - 0 IBU
21.6g Amarillo (10.1%AA) flame-out - 0 IBU
21.6g Columbus (12.3%AA) flame-out - 0 IBU
43.1g Citra (dry hop)
14.4g Columbus (dry hop)
28.7g Chinook (dry hop)
14.4g Amarillo (dry hop)

Yeast: Wyeast 1272, American Ale II

So, the dry hopping is just over 4g per litre, which is substantially more than I've usually seen recommended. I've never brewed an IPA, so maybe I'm just lacking context and this hop bill isn't *that* full on. The lack of late-boil additions also strikes me as strange, but again, maybe that's just lack of experience with the style.
So I guess I'm just after a quick recipe check and any tips for pulling this one off - I'm happy to tinker with the hop bill and also have some Simcoe, Cascade, Summer, EKG and Nelson Sauvin in the freezer.

I'm hoping for a pretty big IPA without it being so obnoxious that it only appeals to 0.01% of the population. I know I'll probably get told to brew it and change it next time if I'm not happy with it, and I probably will, but I also don't want to throw all these ingredients at something that's going to taste ridiculous.

 

[Dan Pratt]

Hi Prince,

It should be a winner if you follow the details from electric brewery. I made the Electric Pale ale 2 weeks ago and tasted it just today.....wow, really great beer and if that's anything to go by you will make a decent ipa.

 

[dicko]

By first wort hopping you are adding a similar flavour effect as if you did late boil additions.
If the recipe you are using has been tried and proven then go with it and tweak it for the subsequent brews if you like it.
The hop additions don't seem too excessive for an IPA

 

[indica86]

Looks good, I may have to make something similar as I have some Rye on hand.

 

[Beersuit]

I have made that recipe Prince and can tell you it was delicious so much so that it got rebrewed fairly quickly. I did adjust the fwh addition slightly from the get go to account for no chilling.
The hopping rate is fairly spot on for an ipa I don't think you will be disappointed.

 

[Doubleplugga]

It was my first brew on my electric brewery. Brewed exact to the recipe on the website and it was excellent mate. The two corny kegs disappeared very quickly.

 

[philmud]

Awesome guys! Thanks for the responses, sounds like it's the bizzo, I'm going to put it down tonight, so I'll proceed with the recipe as-is. I can smell it already!

 

[dicko]

Awesome guys! Thanks for the responses, sounds like it's the bizzo, I'm going to put it down tonight, so I'll proceed with the recipe as-is. I can smell it already!

we all want pics of it when it is in the glass :chug:

 

[philmud]

we all want pics of it when it is in the glass :chug:

Done!

 

[philmud]

Ok, here she is! It's not bad at all, a bit less bitterness than I anticipated and I think it needs late hops, pre whirlpool for a flavour to match dat aroma!

 

[dicko]

Ok, here she is! It's not bad at all, a bit less bitterness than I anticipated and I think it needs late hops, pre whirlpool for a flavour to match dat aroma!

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If it tastes as good as it looks you are on a winner mate.

 

[stakka82]

You will get more flavour from whirlpool than equivalent sized late additions.

 

[philmud]

You will get more flavour from whirlpool than equivalent sized late additions.

Can you expand on that Stakka? I always thought very late (<10 mins) & 0 minute additions largely contribute aroma, not flavour. If you're right, I should consider upping the whirlpool additions?

 

[SimoB]

Nice one mate, I had this the other day - very nice drop. Your's looks very close actually, maybe a little darker or that could because sierra nevada's version is super clear.

 

[stakka82]

Heat close to or at boiling will degrade hop flavour components. That's why you get more hop flavour from late additions than early ones - less contact time at high temps.

Whirlpool additions are essentially very late additions at a temperature lower than that of the boil, less of the volatiles which contribute both flavour and aroma will be degraded or scrubbed by time at high temperatures.

 

[Drew]

I'm going to brew this recipe this weekend. Can't wait!!

Made some hop adjustments as I couldn't get Bravo.




Ruthless Rye IPA

America IPA
Recipe by Drew

Recipe Specs

Original Gravity

Final Gravity

Colour (SRM / EBC)


Bitterness

Alcohol by Volume

1.065

1.016

12.0 / 23.7

51.5 IBU

6.4%

Brewhouse Specs

Recipe Type

Batch Size

Boil Time

Efficiency

All Grain

19.0 Litres / 5.0 Gal

60.0 min

65.0%

Fermentables

Name

Type

SRM

Percentage

Amount

American 2-Row

Grain

1.8

78.68 %

5.00 Kg / 11.02 Lbs

Rye Malt

Grain

3.5

13.06 %

0.83 Kg / 1.83 Lbs

Crystal 60

Grain

60.0

6.14 %

0.39 Kg / 0.86 Lbs

Acidulated Malt

Grain

1.8

1.57 %

0.10 Kg / 0.22 Lbs

Chocolate

Grain

350.0

0.55 %

0.04 Kg / 0.08 Lbs

Hops

Name

AA%

Amount

Use

Time

Columbus

16.3%

20.00 g / 0.71 oz

Boil

60 mins

Amarillo

8.6%

25.00 g / 0.88 oz

Boil

0 mins

Amarillo

8.6%

20.00 g / 0.71 oz

Boil

0 mins

Chinook

11.4%

40.00 g / 1.41 oz

Boil

0 mins

Chinook

11.4%

35.00 g / 1.23 oz

Boil

0 mins

Citra

11.1%

50.00 g / 1.76 oz

Boil

0 mins

Columbus

16.3%

35.00 g / 1.23 oz

Boil

0 mins

Columbus

14.2%

25.00 g / 0.88 oz

Boil

0 mins

Misc

Name

Amount

Use

Time

Yeast

Name

Attenuation

1272

75 %

Mash Steps

Step Name

Time

Temperature

Type

Saccharification Rest

60.0 min

66.0 °C / 150.8 °F

Infusion

Notes

1/2 campden tab, 2.3 teaspoons CaSO4, 0.7 teaspoons CaCl2 1.5 teaspoons MgSO4

Recipe Generated with BrewMate

 

[Drew]

Formatting Fail...Attempt #2!

Ruthless Rye IPA (America IPA)

Original Gravity (OG): 1.065 (°P): 15.9
Final Gravity (FG): 1.016 (°P): 4.1
Alcohol (ABV): 6.39 %
Colour (SRM): 12.0 (EBC): 23.7
Bitterness (IBU): 51.5 (Rager)

78.68% American 2-Row
13.06% Rye Malt
6.14% Crystal 60
1.57% Acidulated Malt
0.55% Chocolate

1.1 g/L Columbus (16.3% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
1.3 g/L Amarillo (8.6% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Whirlpool)
1.1 g/L Amarillo (8.6% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Dry)
2.1 g/L Chinook (11.4% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Whirlpool)
1.8 g/L Chinook (11.4% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Dry)
2.6 g/L Citra (11.1% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Dry)
1.8 g/L Columbus (16.3% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Whirlpool)
1.3 g/L Columbus (14.2% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Dry)


Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes. Boil for 60 Minutes

Fermented at 18°C with 1272 American Ale II

Notes: 2.3 teaspoons CaSO4,
0.7 teaspoons CaCl2
1.5 teaspoons MgSO4

Recipe Generated with BrewMate