RecipeDB - Little Fella's Pale Ale

[Acasta]

great, just double checking.
I do have a sieve i bought for hop removal .
Also, would it be a good idea to boil it in 2L of wort instead of water? will that even make a difference?

 

[argon]

great, just double checking.
I do have a sieve i bought for hop removal .
Also, would it be a good idea to boil it in 2L of wort instead of water? will that even make a difference?

water will extract a different utilisation from the hops relative to wort. However if you use wort that has been pre-hopped, say the original wort that you've created for the rest of the batch... you'll increase the IBUs by continuing to boil the hop compounds contained within it.

For me if i would just do a hop tea with water... I have in the past just done it with a little bit of LDME... seems to smooth the bitterness a bit... not get such grassy notes. But done it plenty of times with water and experienced results just fine.

Either way is good.... just know you'll get slightly different results each time... and not always perceptible :icon_cheers:

 

[Acasta]

yeah, but i figure, if the wort has no hops left over in it, and liquid shouldn't bitter too much, definetly not enought to change it dramaticly i figure.

 

[Phoney]

Im going to give this one a go next But with WLP001 instead of 1056 (because it's what I have in stock!)

 

[argon]

Im going to give this one a go next But with WLP001 instead of 1056 (because it's what I have in stock!)

WLP 001 vs 1056... Potaatoes... Potartoes pretty much same thing should be all good, nice clean, neautral yeast.

Been thinking that the latest version might be getting a bit bitter. I was to do this tomorrow I'd pair it back to about 40-45 ibu. And probably wouldn't to the latest version with galaxy... Old school LCPA is what I'm after.

 

[Phoney]

Which would be the latest one? The one in the DB, or one of the 8 that you've posted in this thread?

 

[argon]

Which would be the latest one? The one in the DB, or one of the 8 that you've posted in this thread?

yeah i know... can't stop tinkering. What I mean by latest one is Little Creature's latest variety of Pale Ale... which includes late additions of Galaxy.

The one in the DB has been tried and tested and comes up well IMHO... so go for that one... the rest is just my ramblings and an attempt on getting a little closer to the real thing. :icon_cheers:

 

[Acasta]

Hey hows your hop schedule look for the one with Chinook, cascade and galaxy?
I was thinking of trying this:

19L
Same malt bill

8.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (60 min) Hops 12.7 IBU
8.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (60 min) Hops 12.5 IBU
13.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (60 min) Hops 8.6 IBU
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (10 min) Hops 5.8 IBU
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (10 min) Hops 5.7 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (10 min) Hops 2.4 IBU
15.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (5 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
15.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (5 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (5 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Thoughts?

 

[argon]

Hey hows your hop schedule look for the one with Chinook, cascade and galaxy?
I was thinking of trying this:

19L
Same malt bill

8.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (60 min) Hops 12.7 IBU
8.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (60 min) Hops 12.5 IBU
13.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (60 min) Hops 8.6 IBU
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (10 min) Hops 5.8 IBU
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (10 min) Hops 5.7 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (10 min) Hops 2.4 IBU
15.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (5 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
15.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (5 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (5 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Thoughts?

yeah looks pretty good... consensus is though that Galaxy does dominate a bit over other hops.. I'm into my second keg of cube hop single addition Galaxy APA now and the hop really does punch out... tried mixing 50/50 it with a not so good irish ale and just get galaxy coming through....give it a go will be tasty no matter what. :icon_cheers: will be interested to know how the combo works together.

 

[Acasta]

Hmm, maybe ill drop the late galaxy additions back abit.
Not sure when ill get around to it but ill let you know.

My first LCPA with all Cascade and Chinook is ready friday

 

[argon]

Hmm, maybe ill drop the late galaxy additions back abit.
Not sure when ill get around to it but ill let you know.

My first LCPA with all Cascade and Chinook is ready friday

Good luck with it hope it turns out good... Cascade and Chinook is a great combo :icon_cheers:

 

[MarkBastard]

I'll be doing this one next I think. Two reasons, one is that LCPA is probably my favourite session beer at the moment, and secondly I have an absolute abundance of EKG, Chinook and Cascade. So it just seems like the perfect recipe.

With that in mind what is in your opinion your best recipe using those hops (no Galaxy) and no chilling?

 

[Acasta]

I half chilled, so i did all my additions 5 min later, as i chilled in my kettle in an ice bath.
The one i made Mark was this:

Malt as before

Hops:
26.80 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (45 min) Hops 30.0 IBU
12.40 gm Cascade [7.60 %] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
7.30 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU

12.20 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (French Press 10 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
20.50 gm Cascade [7.60 %] (French Press 10 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
37.50 gm Cascade [7.60 %] (French Press 5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
22.30 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (French Press 5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU

19.60 gm Cascade [7.60 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
21.40 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -

 

[argon]

I'll be doing this one next I think. Two reasons, one is that LCPA is probably my favourite session beer at the moment, and secondly I have an absolute abundance of EKG, Chinook and Cascade. So it just seems like the perfect recipe.

With that in mind what is in your opinion your best recipe using those hops (no Galaxy) and no chilling?

I've been meaning to updated the DB with the latest and IMO best iteration of this recipe... i too am not a fan of adding Galaxy here...

Done some version of this 5 times and i've done the following one twice without tweaking and i'm pretty happy with it...It's now locked in Beersmith.

IBUs are about right i think. I like the Cascade AND Chinook in the aroma, despite evidence that LC only use Cascade in the hop back.

I'll do it again soon too. After a Roger's Clone and a Black IPA.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: LFPA House Batch
Brewer: Argon
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 29.95 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 12.0 EBC
Estimated IBU: 47.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 kg Ale Malt (Barrett Burston) (6.0 EBC) Grain 70.18 %
1.10 kg Munich I Malt (Weyermann) (14.5 EBC) Grain 19.30 %
0.30 kg Carapils Malt (Weyermann) (4.0 EBC) Grain 5.26 %
0.30 kg Wheat Malt Pale (Weyermann) (4.0 EBC) Grain 5.26 %

30.00 gm East Kent Goldings [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 14.9 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (60 min) Hops 5.9 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 2.8 IBU
10.00 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (20 min) Hops 7.1 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
15.00 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (10 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
25.00 gm Cascade [5.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.3 IBU
25.00 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (5 min) Hops 5.9 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
20.00 gm Chinook [11.40 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -

1.00 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.00 tsp Koppafloc (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
11.00 gm PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 5.70 kg
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Single Infusion, Light Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 32.00 L of water at 67.9 C 65.0 C
10 min Mash Out Heat to 75.6 C over 2 min 75.6 C


Notes:
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NC Cube adjustments - minus 15 mins from all additions
10 min and 5 min done as french press into fermenter at pitching

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Any tweaking i would possibly do from here is just to up the 60min Chinook and delete the EKG... just to save on hops. Then maybe try some different yeasts.

 

[argon]

Just uploaded the Beersmith file of the above recipe in another thread

so here it is again

View attachment LFPA.bsm

 

[boriskane]

just thought id let you know that Alex T from lc just posted this comment regarding lcpa hops:

"And for the hop interested - just to clarify - yes, there is variation from year to year with all hops, and every year we have to tweak. The blend for the past couple of years has been pretty similar with a dose of EKG for a portion of the kettle hop (along with Cascade), and Cascade and Galaxy for the hopback (we haven't used Chinook for a couple of years now)."

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...40&start=40

 

[argon]

just thought id let you know that Alex T from lc just posted this comment regarding lcpa hops:

"And for the hop interested - just to clarify - yes, there is variation from year to year with all hops, and every year we have to tweak. The blend for the past couple of years has been pretty similar with a dose of EKG for a portion of the kettle hop (along with Cascade), and Cascade and Galaxy for the hopback (we haven't used Chinook for a couple of years now)."

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...40&start=40

yeah thanks mate... I saw this thread. Still prefer the 'older' version of LCPA though. Might try it one day with galaxy subbed for chinook... but i love chinook so much it'll be hard to do.

 

[MarkBastard]

I'll hopefully be filtering/kegging this tonight.

 

[argon]

I'll hopefully be filtering/kegging this tonight.

nice one Mark... hope it turns out well.

Geez... i'm hanging out for a nice hoppy sessionable APA at the moment... nothing but a couple of german lagers a kolsch and a cider on tap at home at the moment.... i need my 'C' hops!! :icon_drool2:

 

[MarkBastard]

Yeah totally, I'm looking forward to it.

Only problem is I screwed up the 'french press' addition. Basically I think it was meant to be like 50g of hops. So I bought a french press, put the hops in, poured boiling water in and then the boiling water was only really enough to hydrate the hop pellets. So I put more in, but anyway it ended up being the case that even after pressing only a small amount of hop tea came out :-( I was gunna boil the kettle again but thought that may cause other problems. Hopefully the dry hopping does enough, I reckon it will.