RecipeDB - Citra Lager

[donburke]

Citra Lager

Lager - American Lager
All Grain

2 Votes

Brewer's Notes

crystal hops are citra, mash @ 65 degrees 60 mins mashout 76 degrees, yeast is wy2252 rasenmaher (lawnmower) 2 litre starter 14 days primary @ 13 degrees, kegged and drinking after 2 weeks @ 3 degrees, fantastic beer that anyone would love, definitely one of the best beers i have made

Malt & Fermentables

%	KG	Fermentable
	3.5 kg	JWM Traditional Ale Malt
	1 kg	JWM Vienna - Wendouree Gold
	0.5 kg	JWM Light Munich
	0.5 kg	JWM Wheat Malt
	0.25 kg	JWM Caramalt
	0.05 kg	Weyermann Caramunich III

Hops

Time	Grams	Variety	Form	AA
	15 g	Crystal (Pellet, 3.5AA%, 15mins)
	15 g	Crystal (Pellet, 3.5AA%, 10mins)
	15 g	Crystal (Pellet, 3.5AA%, 5mins)
	15 g	Crystal (Pellet, 3.5AA%, 1mins)
	10 g	Crystal (Pellet, 3.5AA%, 60mins)

25L Batch Size

Brew Details

• Original Gravity 1.052 (calc)
• Final Gravity 1.017 (calc)
• Bitterness 9.4 IBU
• Efficiency 70%
• Alcohol 4.53%
• Colour 16 EBC
• Batch Size 25L

Fermentation

• Primary 14 days
• Conditioning 4 days

 

[sav]

no hops

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

OP - good looking beer.

I rate citra highly after doing this beer with citra.

Was recommended by the site sponsors to use it as a substitute for another they didn't have in stock.

Another hop I rate really highly, and is somewhat similar in nature is Nelson Sauvin. Used it in this beer to good effect..

I'm really liking these fruity american hops. Amarillo is another good one, though I think that citra and NS have that "wow" factor that some of the others don't.

 

[donburke]

no hops

plenty of hops, especially late

this yeast strain is really nice, its created a silky smooth feel to the beer,

having made beers with similar grain bills and hop schedules, but using ale yeasts, i can definitely say that this has a velvet feel that has balanced the malt and hops perfectly

 

[donburke]

OP - good looking beer.

I rate citra highly after doing this beer with citra.

Was recommended by the site sponsors to use it as a substitute for another they didn't have in stock.

Another hop I rate really highly, and is somewhat similar in nature is Nelson Sauvin. Used it in this beer to good effect..

I'm really liking these fruity american hops. Amarillo is another good one, though I think that citra and NS have that "wow" factor that some of the others don't.

citra i find very similar to galaxy, in fact if you switched the labels on the hop packets, i'd be none the wiser

i find nelson sauvin very different, and i must say i cant stand it, its the only hop i can honestly say i hate

its the yeast that has made this beer fantastic,

best described as "an angel just ate a passionfruit flavoured mars bar and is now breathing into your mouth"

 

[razz]

How did the yeast perform DB? I've just picked some up yesterday.

 

[donburke]

How did the yeast perform DB? I've just picked some up yesterday.

very very neutral yeast, no esters, no sulfur, the hop aroma has remained but i can still taste malt

1.048 down to 1.013 which i thought wasnt bad considering my grain bill

i would describe the mouthfeel as silky

make sure you keep some for a future brew, you'll definitely want to use it again

 

[razz]

Thanks Don, looking forward to trying it out.

 

[Holla]

very very neutral yeast, no esters, no sulfur, the hop aroma has remained but i can still taste malt

1.048 down to 1.013 which i thought wasnt bad considering my grain bill

i would describe the mouthfeel as silky

make sure you keep some for a future brew, you'll definitely want to use it again

GDay Don,
Looking forward to brewing this up very soon,
Thanks for the recipe
Cheers
Holla :icon_cheers:

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

citra i find very similar to galaxy, in fact if you switched the labels on the hop packets, i'd be none the wiser

i find nelson sauvin very different, and i must say i cant stand it, its the only hop i can honestly say i hate

its the yeast that has made this beer fantastic,

best described as "an angel just ate a passionfruit flavoured mars bar and is now breathing into your mouth"

I can understand that. I think NS is one of those hops that could be very unforgiving if one does make a slight error.

I probably got lucky with it and formulated a recipe with it correctly. Because it was a joint brew (shared costs), with something that doesn't like high IBU beer, I dropped the IBU down by about 15 points, and I think that it is the key for NS. Drop the points far lower than normal taste. And I think one needs to be conservative with the BU:GU ratio. I had an OG of 1.049 (FG 1.002) and IBU of about 25 (according to qbrew).

I ended up with what was virtually a barley wine. It was very wine-like in terms of its flavours. Not at all the traditional malt beverage.

Ross at Craftbrewer (i occasionally drop in) does a mean Nelson sauvin. His tends to lots of initial bitterness and late aroma. Still has that gooseberry grape aroma and thinner mouthfeel, which suits ther beer.

I've never tried Galaxy. We almost went galaxy instead of NS, it was a toss of the coin. The beer would have been different.

 

[razz]

Just thought I'd put in a mention for Donburke's Citral lager. Highly recommended to all lovers of Citra, and if you don't like Citra use something else. Well done Neil. Excellent beer! :beer:

 

[DKS]

I've never tried Galaxy. We almost went galaxy instead of NS, it was a toss of the coin. The beer would have been different.
[/quote]

Given its not a lager so maybe a little off topic and I haven't tried a Galaxy as a lager but.....

I have a Galaxy brew with 35gms dry hopped citra brewed to 60IBU of Galaxy . Seems to work well together. Mellowing and blending now after more than a month in the bottle.
For me the citra on its own lacks something, but a good hop all the same. When mixed with other fruity/citrus hops its good.
Taking samples to swap meet so will gather others opinion and report.
I would expect citra with any of the big apa hops will add another dimension.
Daz

 

[donburke]

Just thought I'd put in a mention for Donburke's Citral lager. Highly recommended to all lovers of Citra, and if you don't like Citra use something else. Well done Neil. Excellent beer! :beer:

i have also made it with chinook and cascade, and wound back the crystal malts to only 3%

chinook 30g @ 15 and 30g @ 5, and casdcade 35g @ flameout

i'll say it again, this yeast works really well in this style of beer, and i am planning to try it in a european style lager, using noble hops just for bittering

 

[razz]

Yep, a great yeast. I've scavenged a cup full and stepped it up on the stirplate to pitch into a Vienna next week.

 

[donburke]

Yep, a great yeast. I've scavenged a cup full and stepped it up on the stirplate to pitch into a Vienna next week.

be sure to let us know how it goes in your vienna

 

[donburke]

Just drinking a variation of this beer, similar grain bill, same yeast but using D Saaz, and might i just say its fantastic

the riwaka hop has a beautiful mandarin and grapefruit flavour, and this reduced hopping schedule suits the slightly less malty background, harmonious, and lighter in intensity than the citra lager, a quaffer thats for sure



Recipe: RIWAKA LAGER
Brewer: donburke
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 25.00 L
Boil Size: 28.50 L
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 12.6 EBC
Estimated IBU: 34.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 57.14 %
1.00 kg Vienna Malt (Joe White) (12.0 EBC) Grain 19.05 %
0.50 kg Munich, Light (Joe White) (17.7 EBC) Grain 9.52 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 EBGrain 9.52 %
0.25 kg Carabelge (Weyermann) (35.0 EBC) Grain 4.76 %
40.00 gm Riwaka (D Saaz) [5.90 %] (60 min) Hops 23.1 IBU
25.00 gm Riwaka (D Saaz) [5.90 %] (20 min) Hops 8.7 IBU
25.00 gm Riwaka (D Saaz) [5.90 %] (5 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Rasenmher Lager (Wyeast Labs #2252) Yeast-Lager





Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 2 Step
Total Grain Weight: 5.25 kg
----------------------------
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Saccharification Add 32.00 L of water at 67.7 C 65.0 C
10 min Mash Out Heat to 76.0 C over 10 min 76.0 C



Notes:
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FERMENT AT 14 DEGREES

 

[razz]

Looks very nice donburke. The Vienna has come up a treat and I've just kegged a second batch of a SMASH Citra lager variation (pils actually) my favourite use of this yeast to date.

 

[donburke]

Looks very nice donburke. The Vienna has come up a treat and I've just kegged a second batch of a SMASH Citra lager variation (pils actually) my favourite use of this yeast to date.

care to share the mashing and hopping schedule of the smash citra ? which pils did you use ? OG ?

 

[razz]

No probs, just had to switch to the PC, I did use some wheat malt, so technically not a SMASH.

Recipe: CAP II Citra
Brewer: JD
Asst Brewer:
Style: Classic American Pilsner
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 40.00 L
Boil Size: 51.10 L
Estimated OG: 1.040 SG
Estimated Color: 7.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 26.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.50 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (6.0 EBC) Grain 91.67 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt (3.0 EBC) Grain 8.33 %
10.00 gm Citra [11.10 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop)Hops 8.8 IBU
30.00 gm Citra [11.10 %] (20 min) Hops 13.6 IBU
30.00 gm Citra [11.10 %] (5 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
1.00 items koppafloc (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
12.00 gm Polyclar VT (Bottling 30.0 min) Misc
40.00 L CAP Water
1 Pkgs Rasenmher Lager (Wyeast #2252-PC) [StarYeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: My Mash
Total Grain Weight: 6.00 kg
----------------------------
My Mash
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
10 min Step Add 25.71 L of water at 58.1 C 55.0 C
45 min Step Heat to 63.0 C over 10 min 63.0 C
20 min Step Heat to 72.0 C over 10 min 72.0 C
10 min Mashout Heat to 78.0 C over 10 min 78.0 C

 

[donburke]

looks a tasty refreshing summer lager, yum

No probs, just had to switch to the PC, I did use some wheat malt, so technically not a SMASH.

Recipe: CAP II Citra
Brewer: JD
Asst Brewer:
Style: Classic American Pilsner
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 40.00 L
Boil Size: 51.10 L
Estimated OG: 1.040 SG
Estimated Color: 7.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 26.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.50 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (6.0 EBC) Grain 91.67 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt (3.0 EBC) Grain 8.33 %
10.00 gm Citra [11.10 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop)Hops 8.8 IBU
30.00 gm Citra [11.10 %] (20 min) Hops 13.6 IBU
30.00 gm Citra [11.10 %] (5 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
1.00 items koppafloc (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
12.00 gm Polyclar VT (Bottling 30.0 min) Misc
40.00 L CAP Water
1 Pkgs Rasenmher Lager (Wyeast #2252-PC) [StarYeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: My Mash
Total Grain Weight: 6.00 kg
----------------------------
My Mash
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
10 min Step Add 25.71 L of water at 58.1 C 55.0 C
45 min Step Heat to 63.0 C over 10 min 63.0 C
20 min Step Heat to 72.0 C over 10 min 72.0 C
10 min Mashout Heat to 78.0 C over 10 min 78.0 C