Pacific Gem

[chiller]

I'm not certain why I have 750 gms of Pacific Gem but I face a problem in not really knowing much about the hop.

Can anyone give me first hand feed back on it's character? I know it is high alpha not sure how high though as the number is not readable. Probably about 14%

Anyway any suggestions for using 750 gms of Pacific Gem? Do you find it is just a bittering hop and if so does it impart flavour even added at 60 minutes? Has anyone used it FWH or even Mash hopped?

I can see a very nasty beer on the horizon in the next couple of weeks.

 

[mje1980]

I'm not certain why I have 750 gms of Pacific Gem but I face a problem in not really knowing much about the hop.

Can anyone give me first hand feed back on it's character? I know it is high alpha not sure how high though as the number is not readable. Probably about 14%

Anyway any suggestions for using 750 gms of Pacific Gem? Do you find it is just a bittering hop and if so does it impart flavour even added at 60 minutes? Has anyone used it FWH or even Mash hopped?

I can see a very nasty beer on the horizon in the next couple of weeks.

Very smooth bitterness hop. I liked it when i used it. Pretty sure its got good flavour too.

 

[0M39A]

Here's the thread i started on pacific gem about a week ago

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...showtopic=21463

I'm going to use some today in a nelson sauvin ale i'm brewing to test out its bittering quality.

also going to give it a try in a single hop beer (just a pale ale) sometime soon.

 

[SteveSA]

Hi Steve

I've used it in an IPA, FWH to 32ibu with additions at 30min & 10min of 15g each (combined with EKG of same amount and times) then with 30g aroma hops for 10mins.

Very pleasant sweet berry like aroma and flavour but not the "jam like" flavour you describe Challenger as having. Certainly wasn't harsh despite the high alpha (mine was 14.4%AA)

Next time I use it I'll use it as a single hop IPA.

Steve

 

[0M39A]

Btw, the stuff i have is 15% aa

 

[chiller]

Btw, the stuff i have is 15% aa

Thanks guys. I may have to catch up Steve and "taste test" that beer

Steve

 

[chiller]

Here's the thread i started on pacific gem about a week ago

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...showtopic=21463

I'm going to use some today in a nelson sauvin ale i'm brewing to test out its bittering quality.

also going to give it a try in a single hop beer (just a pale ale) sometime soon.

Thanks for the link. adds a bit more to the picture.

Steve

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

I have added my 2 cents on Pacific Gem in this thread chiller. I can highly recommend the Pacific Gem flowers I got from domonsura. They have an AA of around 17.5% IIRC.
http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...;hl=new+zealand

C&B
TDA

 

[Adamt]

I found it a bit "woody", as well as the berryness.

 

[chiller]

I have added my 2 cents on Pacific Gem in this thread chiller. I can highly recommend the Pacific Gem flowers I got from domonsura. They have an AA of around 17.5% IIRC.
http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...;hl=new+zealand

C&B
TDA

Hi TDA - I found a 3 tier stand under some boxes and remembered what to do. Hope you are keeping well.

Steve

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

Hi TDA - I found a 3 tier stand under some boxes and remembered what to do. Hope you are keeping well.

Steve

I am keeping well thanks Steve. If you want to make real good beer I will teach you how.
And the PhilMill is still running like a charm!

C&B
TDA

 

[chiller]

I am keeping well thanks Steve. If you want to make real good beer I will teach you how.
And the PhilMill is still running like a charm!

C&B
TDA

I look forward to the lessons Mark
The PhilMill is still running -- amazing, obviously you aren't brewing enough.

I think we need to have an Adelaide brewday soon.

Steve

 

[TidalPete]

I'm not certain why I have 750 gms of Pacific Gem but I face a problem in not really knowing much about the hop.

Can anyone give me first hand feed back on it's character? I know it is high alpha not sure how high though as the number is not readable. Probably about 14%

Anyway any suggestions for using 750 gms of Pacific Gem? Do you find it is just a bittering hop and if so does it impart flavour even added at 60 minutes? Has anyone used it FWH or even Mash hopped?

I can see a very nasty beer on the horizon in the next couple of weeks.

chiller,

I have used it in my Scottish 80/- three times now. (26IBU at 80 minutes).
Some of the "experts" who claimed that they would never use Pacific Gem in a Scottish couldn't tell the difference.
I use it a lot for bittering different Ales.

TP :beer:

 

[chiller]

chiller,

I have used it in my Scottish 80/- three times now. (26IBU at 80 minutes).
Some of the "experts" who claimed that they would never use Pacific Gem in a Scottish couldn't tell the difference.
I use it a lot for bittering different Ales.

TP :beer:

Thanks TP. I enjoy a Scottish "style" beer so it could be interesting to try as the hop. Could you post your recipe?

Steve

 

[TidalPete]

Thanks TP. I enjoy a Scottish "style" beer so it could be interesting to try as the hop. Could you post your recipe?

Steve

There you go mate. The recipe is for 40 litres.



A ProMash Brewing Session Report
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Brewing Date: Tuesday December 18, 2007
Head Brewer: Sharkbait Brewery
Asst Brewer: Mrs Sharkbait
Recipe: Pop's Scottish 80/-

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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09-C Scottish and Irish Ale, Scottish Export 80

Min OG: 1.040 Max OG: 1.054
Min IBU: 15 Max IBU: 30
Min Clr: 23 Max Clr: 44 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 46.80 Wort Size (L): 40.00
Total Grain (Kg): 10.72
Anticipated OG: 1.057 Plato: 14.02
Anticipated EBC: 30.6
Anticipated IBU: 28.0
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Actual OG: 1.058 Plato: 14.32
Actual FG: 1.008 Plato: 2.02

Alc by Weight: 5.20 by Volume: 6.63 From Measured Gravities.
ADF: 85.9 RDF 71.2 Apparent & Real Degree of Fermentation.

Actual Mash System Efficiency: 82 %
Anticipated Points From Mash: 56.91
Actual Points From Mash: 58.17



Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
78.4 8.40 kg. Cryer Galaxy Malt Australia 1.038 4
7.5 0.80 kg. Bairds Peated Malt Scotland 1.037 13
6.5 0.70 kg. JWM Wheat Malt Australia 1.040 4
6.5 0.70 kg. Bairds Dark Crystal Scotland 1.027 70
1.1 0.12 kg. Bairds Black Malt Scotland 1.027 1708

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
34.00 g. Pacific Gem Pellet 13.00 25.9 80 min.
17.00 g. Goldings - E.K. Pellet 4.75 2.1 15 min.


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
25.00 gm 5.2 pH Stabiliser Other 80 Min.(mash)
0.05 Tsp Sodium Met Other 80 Min.(mash)
1.00 Tsp Table Salt Spice 90 Min.(boil)
1.00 Unit(s)Whirlfloc Tablet Fining 15 Min.(boil)
1.00 Tsp Yeast Nutrient Other 15 Min.(boil)


Yeast
-----

WYeast 1728 Scotish Ale


Mash Schedule
-------------

Mash Name:

Total Grain Kg: 10.72
Total Water Qts: 15.96 - Before Additional Infusions
Total Water L: 15.10 - Before Additional Infusions

Tun Thermal Mass: 0.00
Grain Temp: 28 C


Step Rest Start Stop Heat Infuse Infuse Infuse
Step Name Time Time Temp Temp Type Temp Amount Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Protein 1 30 50 50 Infuse 56 15.10 1.41
Saccharification 1 30 68 68 Infuse 99 11.19 2.45


Total Water Qts: 27.78 - After Additional Infusions
Total Water L: 26.29 - After Additional Infusions
Total Mash Volume L: 33.45 - After Additional Infusions


TP :beer:

 

[bconnery]

I used it as the main hop for a stout I made last year which I really liked, and got 4th at the AABC (not important re the hop but I just love saying it )
I'll be honest and say it probably got a little lost amongst the roastiness of this stout but it certainly wasn't out of character and I think it complimented the roast character very well.

I've bought some to make it again when I do the AG version of this later this year.

Recipe: FES
Brewer: Mooshells
Asst Brewer:
Style: Foreign Extra Stout
TYPE: Partial Mash
Taste: (38.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 22.00 L
Boil Size: 8.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 77.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 60.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
1000.00 gm Light Dry Extract (15.8 EBC) Dry Extract 20.83 %
1500.00 gm Black Rock LME (5.9 EBC) Extract 31.25 %
1000.00 gm Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 20.83 %
300.00 gm Carafa Special II (811.6 EBC) Grain 6.25 %
250.00 gm Barley, Flaked (3.3 EBC) Grain 5.21 %
200.00 gm Black (Patent) Malt (985.0 EBC) Grain 4.17 %
120.00 gm Roasted Barley (591.0 EBC) Grain 2.50 %
100.00 gm Oats, Flaked (2.0 EBC) Grain 2.08 %
80.00 gm Chocolate Malt (689.5 EBC) Grain 1.67 %
50.00 gm Pacific Gem [14.00 %] (45 min) Hops 41.8 IBU
20.00 gm Northern Brewer [8.00 %] (45 min) Hops 9.5 IBU
30.00 gm Pacific Gem [14.00 %] (5 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
10.00 gm Pacific Gem [14.00 %] (10 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
250.00 gm Malto-Dextrin (2.0 EBC) Sugar 5.21 %
1 Pkgs Burton Ale (White Labs #WLP023) Yeast-Ale

 

[Jazman]

i have done a saaz b ale with it bittered with pg also did a dark strong belgian with pg with a bit of sauvin that was good

 

[0M39A]

ended up passing on the PG today, found some super alpha in the fridge that needed using, so it wasn't worth opening a 90g vac packed bag just to use 15g-20g of PG.