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128K? LUXURY! 16k on my BBC micro (think they were called Acorn here) and little reel to reel cassette audio tape thingy for the program and data.
Ahhh those were the days, kids these days have no idea how much they're missing out on.
First external drive was a 5 1/4" floppy, DOUBLE sided AND Double density, and 1.2 MEG!!! holy moly how would you ever fill that up, and only 900 POUNDS Sterling, and this was back in 83/84 ye gods I must have been mad, probably still am a bit.
 

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16k?? LUXURY! 4k on my Sharp something. reel to reel? we only had 1 reel that you had to wind in and out with a pencil. the first stuff used to etch into a slice of cheese. nah, can't remember, but 1981, Sharp, ok, i'll go and research.
ok, pretty sure it was the MZ-80B, in 32kb or 64kb models. going on the price of their earlier model, it was probably a bit over AU$2000, or about 15-17 weeks salary on the basic wage. i was a cellarman, the pub bought it for stock control. we had a guy from sharp just about living at the bar for 2 months sorting out tech issues.
 

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Last time we had this conversation I went and looked at all the old home brewing books I could find (some back to the 1950's) what I have posted is what is reported in those references. Most of these are English books.
If I recall correctly I posted copies of some of the information. You are invited (again) to provide any evidence to the contrary, other than your personal recollections.
I have never seen any evidence that you or anyone posted that proves or suggests that 3V systems pre date 1V. Or that BIAB as we know it was in response to systems like Braumeisters. Was there perhaps a sixties Braumeister that I’m not aware existed?
Like I said, you have an opinion, do some research to support and post the evidence. Its pretty hard to expect everyone to just agree with you.
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It only you that is disagreeing with me Mark. It’s not just my opinion, I’m telling you that I personally saw and used 1V BIAB, are you suggesting that I am making this up? dkril has posted above that his Grandfather did it also. I have previously posted pictures of descriptions and illustrations from old HB books.

If you take look at this this thread a few others also say they were aware that 1V BIAB was used and described in old books etc. As I recall the Dave Line Book that Yob mentions in post #2 was posted elsewhere and it showed BIAB

Here is a book by C.J.J.Berry first published 1963 that shows him using a single vessel BIAB.

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My grandfather did what we would now call BIAB back in the day. A couple of sheets of cheesecloth stitched together by my grandmother (the top tied shut with garden twine), and using the Fowlers Vacola boiler as his single vessel. No sparge.
Was that in Australia? Do you recall around what year it was?
 

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Was that in Australia? Do you recall around what year it was?
I don't personally recall, no. Bit before my time ;).

From the early 70s, maybe late 60s era. I have his old fermenter which was made in the early 70s (month/year of manufacture is moulded into the base); and he did a few batches before that in a bucket with a tea towel over the top. Copied gthe bucket and tea towel from on the old ginger beer plant they had (or had had).

Definitely in Australia. He was born in the 1920s, and didn't leave the country this century.
 
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I went and looked at all the old home brewing books I could find (some back to the 1950's) what I have posted is what is reported in those references. Most of these are English books.
Forgot to ask, what UK home brewing books do you have from the 1950's? All the ones I have seen are 1963 or after. I know there was a lot of illegal home brewing prior to 63 but haven’t seen books published about it back then.
 

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Are your 50’s books aimed at home brewers or commercial setups? Just a thought Mark but maybe the 1950’s books you have did not cover single vessel brewing as you needed a licence to brew at home back then and I would guess anyone with a licence would be looking to brew more than the 5-10 gallons that it is practical to brew using a grain bag.

Any chance you can show us pictures of your books and the equipment they used?

Having a clear out at the weekend and came across my old BIAB Electrim bin and grain bags that I used for brewing single vessel all grain in the eighties.

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any issues going straight from kettle into white plastic fermenter?
i did this yesterday, wort had cooled to 75 for a hopstand, and fermenter was star sanded prior, but it still didnt feel right, felt like the ar... i mean bottom of the FV was going to drop.

i do use the cubes, but had a larger batch i wanted to drop straight into the FV, but due to my worry abuot the construction of the standard white FV, i put it in a big esky with ice around it to help cool, then chucked in the fridge for a few hrs prior to pitching,

i've been using a lot of kveik VOSS lately, so having the wort warm is good, as it loves the temps about 35+ so reduces the cooling time
 
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