Mills

[QldKev]

When I was looking I found out Fred used to work for Crankandstein; his design of a mill

Now he works for his own company MM; and made it better?

QldKev

 

[yardy]

MM2 here, i'm pretty happy with mine http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...74&hl=yardy

 

[stux]

When I was looking I found out Fred used to work for Crankandstein; his design of a mill

Now he works for his own company MM; and made it better?

QldKev

As I understand it he was the marketing/shipping/customer support guy... and the other guy said "i don't need you" so they split...

so a mill which solves the shipping and customer support problems that crank had?

 

[amiddler]

Humulus,

I am just about sold on the 3 roll Monster Mill MM3-2.0. Should be $277 to my door. Slightly cheaper than the 3 roll Crankandstein and I like the sound of 2" rolls over the 1.5" diameter rolls. Talking to other brewers they all recomend a 3 roll over the 2 rollers. Would still love the Mashmaster all Stainless but at double the price inculding delivery hardly worth it for home brew use IMO.

Drew

 

[Bizier]

I just got a Crankandstein 3D, and cheap too. I have yet to really put it through its paces, especially with what lower speeds could produce (I am running a 240v Makita) but it is bloody marvellous.

I even thought though, and hear me out here... That if you got 2 of the cheapest mills, you could rig them up with the same speed via a 1:1 pulley, one above the other with appropriate channeling bits. Yopu adjust the first one larger than the second and have a really class crush for the price. Would be work, I know.

Remember this is probably the mill you will have for a while, so get the best one you can afford.

 

[felten]

I bought a mm2 Monster mill and have got it working with a motor easily http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...showtopic=51288. The only differenc I can see between the two would be crankenstein spins both rolllers is fully adjustable but not the easiest to adjust. The monster only spins one roller but is easily fully adjustable. Anyway I really like my monster mill +1

Last time I checked both MM and crankandstein's mills are all grain engaged on the non driven roller, the only one with both rollers driven is the mashmaster.

I have a crank 2d and it's great, from what I've seen brands are solid mills and I don't think you can go wrong with either. The only difference i can see is with the design of the hoppers, MM definitely has a sexier hopper than the crank one.

 

[Maple]

I've got one of the Mashmaster mills, and although the price is (significantly) higher, I have no second thoughts or regrets on spending the extra. I have been known to crush a bit of Rye every now and again, and this mill is unphased. others (i've heard - speculation only) struggle a bit. I'd compare the two types (2 roller driven vs one roller driven) like the difference between a Rav4 and a Patrol/Landcruiser. either will get you through just about anything, but the purpose built ones walk up adverse conditions. But the price point is a big consideration.

no affiliation, just happy customer.

 

[theover]

Happy with my monster mill

 

[MeLoveBeer]

I have been known to crush a bit of Rye every now and again

Since when Dave? Heard you couldn't stand the stuff.

Another thing worth considering guys is that you have to have some way of driving these mills. Keep in mind that you need either a handle, motor or a drill that can give you excellent torque at low speeds (and not just pulsed low speeds like most drills will do).

 

[QldKev]

As I understand it he was the marketing/shipping/customer support guy... and the other guy said "i don't need you" so they split...

so a mill which solves the shipping and customer support problems that crank had?

Found it, you are correct about his role. I thought he did say somewhere on one of the US forums he was the primary designer; not 100% sure it was a few years ago.

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...st&p=258595


I think any of the 3 mills will be an excellent investment that you will get a very long use out of.


QldKev

 

[big78sam]

Another thing worth considering guys is that you have to have some way of driving these mills. Keep in mind that you need either a handle, motor or a drill that can give you excellent torque at low speeds (and not just pulsed low speeds like most drills will do).

FWIW, I was planning to motorise mine but tried a crank handle first and it was actually pretty easy. Gives my arm a bit of a workout as well which I need pushing a mouse all day.

 

[megs80]

Last time I checked both MM and crankandstein's mills are all grain engaged on the non driven roller, the only one with both rollers driven is the mashmaster.

I have a crank 2d and it's great, from what I've seen brands are solid mills and I don't think you can go wrong with either. The only difference i can see is with the design of the hoppers, MM definitely has a sexier hopper than the crank one.

You might be right. I saw the geared detail at the end of the rollers and asumed. If that the case forget what i said.

Cheers

 

[Malted]

You might be right. I saw the geared detail at the end of the rollers and asumed. If that the case forget what i said.

Cheers

The thought of 'grain engaged' rollers doesn't sound too good to me. Don't you try to keep the grain away from the ends of the rollers to stop it fouling them/potential dust in bearings, build up on shaft etc? The gears do not touch, it is only if grain gets betwen them that they engage. If all that is the case then the grain engaged 'gearing' would serve no practical purpose.
My 2c worth of thoughts.

 

[tavas]

The arguement for grain engaged vs geared rollers is pretty irrelevant. As long as the floating roll is free, there shouldn't be an issue. If you were running a shop processing hundreds of kilos a day, then maybe, but for the average brewer there shouldn't be an issue.

If you're really worried about only having one driven roller, get some rubber o rings and put them on one roll. Then you'll have two driven rolls.

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

The arguement for grain engaged vs geared rollers is pretty irrelevant. As long as the floating roll is free, there shouldn't be an issue. If you were running a shop processing hundreds of kilos a day, then maybe, but for the average brewer there shouldn't be an issue.

If you're really worried about only having one driven roller, get some rubber o rings and put them on one roll. Then you'll have two driven rolls.

Yep , I have done just that on my 3D, it was starting to not grab grain after a shed load of customer orders, a couple of O rings later and its better than new.
GB

 

[mckenry]

How long have you had yr barley crusher for? Mine has done several hundred kilos of grain but I reckon it's on it's last legs.

Hey Hatchy,
Probably done 250kg of grain and still going like new. Shame to hear that. What do you mean by last legs? Gap not staying put?

 

[Hatchy]

Mine is just struggling to pull grain through. I got it from a mate for $50 when he upgraded. I've put a couple of hundred kilos through it & my mate would've done more.

 

[Paul H]

How long have you had yr barley crusher for? Mine has done several hundred kilos of grain but I reckon it's on it's last legs.

As gay as it is +1, BM's are fine initially but no good in respect to the long term.

Cheers


Paul

 

[RobW]

Yep , I have done just that on my 3D, it was starting to not grab grain after a shed load of customer orders, a couple of O rings later and its better than new.
GB

Could one of you post a pic please

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

Could one of you post a pic please

Never posted a pic on this site ever, dont how how, sorry. And there would be some that say "Dont get him started " :lol:
GB