Knurling on a Mashmaster Mini Mill

[dicko]

I would have thought an email from the manufacturer with the current status as to the new rollers would be almost due considering the time frame involved and the inconvenience these faulty rollers are generally causing the users of the product. :unsure: :angry:

 

[Rocker1986]

That's insane! :blink: It didn't even take me that long with the hand crank when I had that stupid sack of malt that refused to go through the mill. I'm glad I have gotten rid of that malt now. All other malts are fine going through my mill, which is the Mashmaster. It's nearly 3 years old now.

 

[dicko]

That's insane! :blink: It didn't even take me that long with the hand crank when I had that stupid sack of malt that refused to go through the mill. I'm glad I have gotten rid of that malt now. All other malts are fine going through my mill, which is the Mashmaster. It's nearly 3 years old now.

As I said above, I had a mill of a different brand that was not geared but relied on the grain being drawn through to keep it feeding and turning.
During its ten or eleven year life it never failed regardless of the brand or type of grain.

I think you are blaming the grain when the problem could ge the knurling on the rollers.

 

[Crusty]

My Minimill is a few years old & flawless thus far. If it does crap out, I hope they agree to replace it with a MM3 Pro.

 

[SJW]

I have a very old home made single roll mill that I bought of an old bloke who was getting out of brewing. He said it had milled 1000's of kgs of grain before I bought it. I had used it for years and worked out I ran about 50 25 kg bags through it before my son dropped some small stones in the hopper. That fixed the knurling. So I took it to work and a machinist ran a fresh knurl? over it and it is great....again. Only problem is because its only a single roller its pretty slow. So I set my drill up on the side and let it do its thing. About 5 min for 6 kgs, and I run the grain through twice. I think the mill was called a Phil Mill Mk 1

Steve

 

[Rocker1986]

As I said above, I had a mill of a different brand that was not geared but relied on the grain being drawn through to keep it feeding and turning.
During its ten or eleven year life it never failed regardless of the brand or type of grain.

I think you are blaming the grain when the problem could ge the knurling on the rollers.

Well that doesn't really explain why that was the only grain that I had trouble with though, does it? Every other type/brand of base grain, crystal, roasted, or whatever, has had no problem at all being drawn through the mill. It was only that one sack of Simpsons MO. That suggests to me that it was the grain and not the mill. Not having a go, that's just what my experience has been.

 

[dicko]

No probs Rocker,

If you have trouble with any other grains just give them a slight moisten with a spray bottle to soften the husk a bit. :beer:

 

[stompnground]

same problem with my Keg King...really looking forward to the new Mashmaster model... anyone got an ETA on its arrival?

 

[huez]

Well that doesn't really explain why that was the only grain that I had trouble with though, does it? Every other type/brand of base grain, crystal, roasted, or whatever, has had no problem at all being drawn through the mill. It was only that one sack of Simpsons MO. That suggests to me that it was the grain and not the mill. Not having a go, that's just what my experience has been.

I started noticing issues with mine when i tried milling maris otter, then after that i had issues with every type of grain.

same problem with my Keg King...really looking forward to the new Mashmaster model... anyone got an ETA on its arrival?

couple of months yet apparently

 

[Diesel80]

Why are ppl looking forward to new models of the same when they have failed so bad? Long live the monster with SS rollers! Maybe skip a gen and make sure their **** is sorted out this time round?
Is the appeal the fact they are geared mills?
Curious as mine isn't.

Cheers
D80

 

[Rocker1986]

I started noticing issues with mine when i tried milling maris otter, then after that i had issues with every type of grain.

Dang. That sucks! I only had issues with Simpsons MO but the Fawcetts MO has been fine. Also used Wey floor malted Bo Pils over the last few months with no issues. Maybe that sack had been poorly stored and dried out too much or something.

 

[Mr B]

I started noticing issues with mine when i tried milling maris otter, then after that i had issues with every type of grain.

Thats interesting, I think I may be in the same boat.

Cant recall if mine got slower, or it coincided to when I got a sack of MO, but I definitely had problems which suddenly increased in severity. Frank replaced the main drive roller, for which I was very grateful, however I havent noticed any difference - I have to push the grain through with the mash paddle handle and it still takes half an hour. I have been meaning to chase it up with him, need to do that.

 

[huez]

Thats interesting, I think I may be in the same boat.

Cant recall if mine got slower, or it coincided to when I got a sack of MO, but I definitely had problems which suddenly increased in severity. Frank replaced the main drive roller, for which I was very grateful, however I havent noticed any difference - I have to push the grain through with the mash paddle handle and it still takes half an hour. I have been meaning to chase it up with him, need to do that.

I could have been in the same to be honest, maybe i just didn't notice it until i got a sack of MO. But after that it was a nightmare ha! At its worse it was taking an hour for 5kgs.

Frank is pretty good on the emails, i've always appreciated his honesty. No harm in a follow up email. I recently spoke to him and the new design is definitely on its way

 

[user 35653]

I could have been in the same to be honest, maybe i just didn't notice it until i got a sack of MO. But after that it was a nightmare ha! At its worse it was taking an hour for 5kgs.

Frank is pretty good on the emails, i've always appreciated his honesty. No harm in a follow up email. I recently spoke to him and the new design is definitely on its way

Has anyone had an update on the new rollers?

 

[Parks]

"Hopefully" by late December I was told last week.

 

[huez]

I was told before Christmas a couple months ago. He's at the mercy of the manufacturer though, seems to be some hold ups

 

[bradsbrew]

Wetting the grain definately helps. Running the grain through dry can take upto an hour for 5 kg. Around 120ml into 5.5kg took under 5 minutes.

Cheers

 

[user 35653]

The mills are back in stock on the mashmaster website now with fluted rollers - http://www.mashmaster.com.au/p/4571858/millmaster-grain-mill.html Has anyone had an update?

 

[Batz]

I wonder what the crush is like with the fluted rollers, one could imagine the husks being rather damaged. Perhaps a flour build up in the flutes as well?
Someone will get one and report back in time I guess.

 

[Mardoo]

Fluted rollers are one of the major standards in professional mills, the other being large diameter smooth rollers, so I'd be surprised if there are inherent problems with the flutes. I've always read that there's less tearing with flutes than with knurls. If that's a word.

 

[Batz]

Well I hope all is good, one day my poor old valley mill will have to pack it in and perhaps this maybe the replacement.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

well I sent an email off this morning (didn't see the point hassling people over the xmas break), will see what comes of it. From posts in the other thread it sounds like some of the replacement knurled rollers are beginning to have the same issue. I wonder if they will replace with the fluted or offer a pay-the-difference arrangement for the upgrade (the new mills are 50 bones dearer than what I paid a year ago).

link to post in other thread: http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/70875-millmaster-mini-mill-slow-after-adjusting-gap/?p=1340497

 

[malt and barley blues]

The only thing I can see with a fluted mill is an inconsistent crush, are the rollers in sync? If not where the grain falls into the hollow of both flutes then the crush would be less, if this is how it is supposed to work and presuming the rollers aren't in sync then the crush would be more where the peak and the hollow mesh in.
Has anyone got a fluted mill?

 

[Mardoo]

They're geared.

 

[bradsbrew]

The only thing I can see with a fluted mill is an inconsistent crush, are the rollers in sync? If not where the grain falls into the hollow of both flutes then the crush would be less, if this is how it is supposed to work and presuming the rollers aren't in sync then the crush would be more where the peak and the hollow mesh in.
Has anyone got a fluted mill?

Fluted Rollers

• asymmetrical saw-tooth fluted rollers designed to provide a cutting on cutting crush as found in high end commercial mill rollers
• angled flutes to provide additional strength, durability and a improved crush distribution
• made from heat treated 420 Stainless Steel

 

[malt and barley blues]

That makes sense then, so the mills with the free running knurled roller will not be able to interchange to the fluted.

 

[bradsbrew]

Free running rollers of what mill? Mashmaster is geared.

 

[Spiesy]

The mills are back in stock on the mashmaster website now with fluted rollers - http://www.mashmaster.com.au/p/4571858/millmaster-grain-mill.html Has anyone had an update?

Looks awesome!

 

[malt and barley blues]

I was a fitter machinist and made my own with a free running knurled roller,but I case hardened my rollers and they are still working fine.

 

[Rocker1986]

well I sent an email off this morning (didn't see the point hassling people over the xmas break), will see what comes of it. From posts in the other thread it sounds like some of the replacement knurled rollers are beginning to have the same issue. I wonder if they will replace with the fluted or offer a pay-the-difference arrangement for the upgrade (the new mills are 50 bones dearer than what I paid a year ago).

link to post in other thread: http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/70875-millmaster-mini-mill-slow-after-adjusting-gap/?p=1340497

Wondering the same thing myself actually. I would prefer to simply replace the rollers on my mill rather than the whole thing since apart from those, there is nothing wrong with it. Different grains go through more easily than others which is annoying, it would be nice to have them all pretty much the same, rather than spending 45+ minutes milling a few kg of MO and then 30 seconds for 500g Munich or whatever. Will keep an eye out.