KegLand Questions and Answers

[KegLand-com-au]

Any plans to sell a hop bong kit for the kegmenter? Something with all the bits picked and packed - like this one for the fermzilla. Or have I missed something? Haven't browsed this one for a while but did some searching ... ...

Yes this is something that will come out in future. It's something that we will also need for the BrewBuilt fermenters too so we will definitely have a solution available on the website soon.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Hi @KegLand-com-au I noticed the new false bottom you released looks like the design could double as a bit of a trub catcher on the bottom after a whirlpool. I've been trying to keep more of the break etc out of my fermenter and this looks like it could work quite well. Did you guys notice any difference during testing? Do you have a seal somewhere in your range which could be added to the bottom cylinder to improve things?

I must say I am generally not that fussed about some hot break coming into the fermenter. The holes in this heavy duty false bottom are about 2mm diameter. The clearance between this false bottom and the cylindrical sides of the boiler is about 2mm or a bit less so I dont think a seal will help much at all as if the particle size is less than 2mm it will go through the holes anyway.

I personally find that the 2mm hole size is quite good as it blocks a large amount of the hops and a small amount of the hot break but large enough that you don't seem to get issues with it completely blocking up and not getting flow through the screen. As it works fairly well as a filter I would not bother doing a whirlpool in my opinion. I know this is a controversial topic and some people will disagree and say they always whirlpool but with this type of screen I think it's just a waste of time.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

The latest KL youtube video had Kee standing on it, so it'll easily handle the weight of the malt pipe.

Yes that is right. It will definitely handle the weight of the malt pipe and quite a bit more.

 

[Ferg]

I must say I am generally not that fussed about some hot break coming into the fermenter. The holes in this heavy duty false bottom are about 2mm diameter. The clearance between this false bottom and the cylindrical sides of the boiler is about 2mm or a bit less so I dont think a seal will help much at all as if the particle size is less than 2mm it will go through the holes anyway.

I personally find that the 2mm hole size is quite good as it blocks a large amount of the hops and a small amount of the hot break but large enough that you don't seem to get issues with it completely blocking up and not getting flow through the screen. As it works fairly well as a filter I would not bother doing a whirlpool in my opinion. I know this is a controversial topic and some people will disagree and say they always whirlpool but with this type of screen I think it's just a waste of time.

Hey, thanks for the reply. Understood break in the fermenter is one of those controversial topics!
I probably didn't describe my thoughts all that well.

My thinking was if you put a seal on this bottom edge it would mean that once you whirlpool anything that drops through the top would end up in this inner cylinder. With the outlet being outside this cylinder (on my brewzilla at least) the wort would then get double filtered before I pump it into my fermenter. Essentially a trub trapper with a lid! You could even go a finer mesh on the vertical section to make it really filter-y!

 

[Meddo]

Hey Meddo. It was a couple years ago when you asked for the FermZilla tri-clover dump valve. It's taken loads of R&D to do this but we have finally got to the finish line and made the FermZilla with tri-clover base. This is a very exciting development as some customers in the past have found the double nut assembly at the bottom of the conical fermzilla complicated, can get jammed if it gets overtightened.

After numerous requests from people like yourself to make the FermZilla bases tri-clover we have finally done this and released the FermZilla Tri-Conical. This is a really cool product and is very very simple to take apart and clean making it more sanitary.

Hope you guys enjoy using this new fermenter. The dump valve is quite a large 3" dump valve and the hops and heast easily just fall straight down this hole.

Hey mate, been on a brewing hiatus for 12 months so just got to this - looks really neat. Seems to be a better solution than the blue team's with the ferrule part of the body, rather than a screw on attachment. Keen to check it out when the little ones come back in stock - any ETA?

The one part that I'd love you to make/provide - which I've raised a few times before - is an adaptor from the PCO1881 threads on these units to 5/8" to match the K-Lok and equivalent fittings. I haven't had a ball-lock fitting in my brewery for years and would find this device much more useful if I could use an adaptor to fit the "K-Lok Female x 5/8 Female" part to the lid especially, but also a lot of your other items that are utilising that PCO1881 thread (fermentation fridge, keg fridge, etc.). All I'm looking for please is an equivalent of the adaptor below, but with the female PCO1881 thread instead of the female 19/32 corny post thread.

Cheers,

5/8 Male x 19/32 Female (K-Lok to Corny Keg Adaptor)

K-Lok Female x 5/8 Female

 

[sbowler]

We dont really have enough parts at the moment to satisfy the current demand for the whole FermZilla Tri-Conical units and we are struggling to make enough stock as it is right now. With that said once we get more parts it should be possible for us to make upgrade kits. The parts you would need in the upgrade kit would be:

1. New Tri-clover tank
2. Tri-clamp (3inch and 2inch)
3. Butterfly valve
4. Tri clover lid for collection container
5. Few seals

As soon as we have more spare parts we will put this online as a bundle so you can purchase the upgrade kit

Just wondering if the spare part situation has improved so that the upgrade kit might be a possibility?

 

[Paleman]

So whats going on with the Hop Bong @KegLand-com-au ?

Out of stock. A formidable poster on the Coopers forum starts a thread he got one, two days later i want to buy one out of stock again.
I feel like a poor kid missing out at Christmas. Cmon, get enough stock in to involve everyone.

 

[tubbsy]

So whats going on with the Hop Bong @KegLand-com-au ?

Out of stock. A formidable poster on the Coopers forum starts a thread he got one, two days later i want to buy one out of stock again.
I feel like a poor kid missing out at Christmas. Cmon, get enough stock in to involve everyone.

You probably shouldn't have waited 2 days

 

[ozdevil]

You probably shouldn't have waited 2 days

lets be fair mate, he most likely didnt know about the hop bong until that formidable poster mentioned the hop bong and didnt see the post until 2 days after

 

[Half-baked]

So whats going on with the Hop Bong @KegLand-com-au ?

Out of stock

Just had a look, both the 1.5 and 2 inch ones are in stock

 

[ozdevil]

Just had a look, both the 1.5 and 2 inch ones are in stock

would you care to check again
the 1.5" & 2" hop bong sight glass is in stock , however what @Paleman wants is the complete unit

 

[Paleman]

Just had a look, both the 1.5 and 2 inch ones are in stock

Not the whole unit, just a sight glass is not the hop bong.

 

[Half-baked]

Not the whole unit, just a sight glass is not the hop bong.

So the hop bong is the 2" Hop Bong Swedish Pumper Pressure Pack for FermZilla? I would have thought that was the 2" Hop Bong Swedish Pumper Pressure Pack for FermZilla…

 

[Paleman]

So the hop bong is the 2" Hop Bong Swedish Pumper Pressure Pack for FermZilla? I would have thought that was the 2" Hop Bong Swedish Pumper Pressure Pack for FermZilla…

Not in stock

 

[BAA]

Kegland

You must be generating great insights from all of the data collected by the RAPT platform. Is this something that could be used to build more intellegence for example around mash or fermentation profiles?

I love watching my fermentations but am looking at the data and would love to see for example a second AI created SG line showing a mean / median fermentation profile so that I could start to understand the finer inputs of temperture / pressure etc during the ferment and predicted results.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Kegland

You must be generating great insights from all of the data collected by the RAPT platform. Is this something that could be used to build more intellegence for example around mash or fermentation profiles?

I love watching my fermentations but am looking at the data and would love to see for example a second AI created SG line showing a mean / median fermentation profile so that I could start to understand the finer inputs of temperture / pressure etc during the ferment and predicted results.

It's funny that you mention this. This is definitely something that we are discussing at the moment. At some stage in the future we will have pull down menu when you put in a profile to say what yeast you are using and have some type of recipe integrated into the profile. With respect to mash we will also do a similar thing.

Once we have the fermentation and mash profiles linked to certain recipes this will give us really good mash and fermentation data with plenty of temperature, gravity, and time logging. We hope that using this data it will enable us to fit a predictive graph to your mash and fermentation profile so if you select a certain yeast, temperature profile and ingredients the predicted attenuation over time or mash conversion will be predicted and overlaid on the graph. We do not have enough data at this stage and the data is not coordinated well enough for this yet but certainly this is a direction that we will be heading in.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Not in stock

Yes we are missing a few of the components. We have several new parts in this new assembly and we are in the process of buffering up stock levels of all these so the hop bong assembly doesn't sell out so frequently.

To be honest you might be better off purchasing the parts that are in stock first and then purchasing the other parts later. We normally price the "bundle" at a price which is the same or very similar to purchasing the parts separately anyway.

 

[BAA]

It's funny that you mention this. This is definitely something that we are discussing at the moment. At some stage in the future we will have pull down menu when you put in a profile to say what yeast you are using and have some type of recipe integrated into the profile. With respect to mash we will also do a similar thing.

Once we have the fermentation and mash profiles linked to certain recipes this will give us really good mash and fermentation data with plenty of temperature, gravity, and time logging. We hope that using this data it will enable us to fit a predictive graph to your mash and fermentation profile so if you select a certain yeast, temperature profile and ingredients the predicted attenuation over time or mash conversion will be predicted and overlaid on the graph. We do not have enough data at this stage and the data is not coordinated well enough for this yet but certainly this is a direction that we will be heading in.

That is really interesting to me and definitely a great reason for me to continue to invest in the RAPT ecosystem. I know this is not going to be for all - and some traditionalists won’t like it but for me this hearalds a new era in brewing and should make home brewing even more accessible than it is has become over the next few years. It will help newer brewers especially understand the process by showing the possibilities and consequences of decisions and ultimately get a better result more predictably. Keep it up!

 

[Paleman]

To be honest you might be better off purchasing the parts that are in stock first and then purchasing the other parts later.

Whats the point if you cant use it as its intended in its entirety?

 

[MontPel]

I’ve recently moved house and will now need to have my series 4 serving fridge on floorboards (was previously on tiles). I noticed the fridge often leaked water on the ground due to temperature fluctuations and constant frosting/defrosting inside the fridge. I didn’t mind it doing it on tiles but I do not want water to pool under the fridge on the floorboards. Is there a way to stop this? Maybe put the fridge on a big oil drip tray or something?

 

[rmblingmn]

Hi, looks like there's a bug in your latest version of the RAPT Chamber, either that or perfect timing for the heating element in mine to stop working.

I was cold crashing at the end of fermentation and had the temp set to -2 degrees for a couple of days. Went out to check it this afternoon and it was reading -9 degrees and my Pill in the fermenter was at reading -4 degrees.

Based on the reading in the RAPT profile looks like it started happening around 6am today. And I went to check the firmware version of the fridge and looks like it was released yesterday.
20220623_012003

Luckily my chamber was in the cold crash stage, so it hopefully didn't ruin the brew. But the beer is now full of ice crystals.

So a warning to anyone out their in crucial stages of fermentation to go check it if you've got it set to automatically update.

 

[Codemunk3y]

Whats the point if you cant use it as its intended in its entirety?

I'm guessing they've say, ordered 100 of each component. 100 of some components come in, but only say, 75 of others come in. The list 75 kits and sell out, but are left with 25 of the remaining components.

At some point, they'll get the other 25 of that component and make up more kits, which will sell out quickly.

If you buy 90% of the parts, then when they get those 25 remaining components, you can grab them then.

This is all hypothetical.

 

[ScottyH]

Hi All

Just took delivery of my RAPT temp Controller and was doing some testing today. For the life of my I couldn't get it to do data logging every 15mins. it just kept defaulting to 1hr.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Scott

 

[Jgb]

Hi KL,

The 8lt PET kegs look neat. Saw in the YT vid you mentioned an upcoming 4lt version. Any idea on when these might be available??

Cheers

 

[pauly]

@KegLand-com-au I have both a Rapt Pill and the Temperature controller. Correct me if I'm wrong, I seem to remember in one of the videos there was talk of creating the temperature profile steps based on the gravity from the pill rather than simply a time interval. I can't find this functionality in the portal, nor can I find a ticket in the gitlab board. Is there any update on this?

I am not sure what the benefit of me linking the pill with the temp controller is right now, I don't even seem to be able to use the pill as a temperature source for the controller.

 

[fickk]

We have changed the design of all the new Core 360 units so you do not chop up that o-ring in the new designed units. With that said on the older units this can be avoilded by just not unscrewing the thumb screw out too far. You only really need to unscrew the thumb screw to the point where the pin on the gas cylinder is no longer getting depressed.

Hi, can I kindly ask you for Thumb Screw O-Ring size?

 

[sbowler]

Just wondering if the spare part situation has improved so that the upgrade kit might be a possibility?

@KegLand-com-au - apologies missed tagging you in last message. Any updates to this?

 

[user 37368]

Is there a SDS for Super Kill Ethyl Sanitiser Spray 1000mL (Ethanol, Alcohol)

Pretty sure it's required.

 

[crowmanz]

Sorry, I missed this statement. The mini kegerator is coming along and we are pretty much done with the design process. We are moving to tooling now. Normally we would have about 2 months getting tooling completed, then another 2 months of internal testing and then once this is completed we will move to approvals and this can take 2-4 months. So at a bit of a guess I would say we are 6-8 months from getting the mini kegerator finished now.

Any updates on the benchtop mini kegerators?

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Any updates on the benchtop mini kegerators?

I'm guessing they've say, ordered 100 of each component. 100 of some components come in, but only say, 75 of others come in. The list 75 kits and sell out, but are left with 25 of the remaining components.

At some point, they'll get the other 25 of that component and make up more kits, which will sell out quickly.

If you buy 90% of the parts, then when they get those 25 remaining components, you can grab them then.

This is all hypothetical.

Yes that is correct. This is basically what we are trying to say.