James Squire Ipa Recipe?

[ForkBoy]

Love the JS IPA, would like to make something similar.

Has anyone had a go at cloning this or able to a suggested starting point for a recipe?

 

[Fents]

James Squire India Pale Ale

Brewer tasting notes:
James Squire India Pale Ale is made with Munich and pale malt, so it brews to a rich, golden colour, with a robust, malty character. Its earthy, floral aromas are a result of dry-hopping with English Fuggles hops added in generous amounts directly into the maturation tanks. This India Pale Ale is handcrafted in the traditional style. It is higher in alcohol, effervescent and has a characteristic highly hopped bitterness with a crisp finish on the palate.

Are you doing a Kit or AG?

 

[ForkBoy]

ah yep that would help, all grain...

 

[ForkBoy]

ah, the MSB text is quite helpful

so a 5.6% alc beer,
Pale Malt,
Munich
IBUs on the bitter side
flavour and dry hopping with fuggles

 

[Fents]

Looks right to me!

 

[T.D.]

I find it very hard to believe there isn't some kind of medium crystal in there. The colour seems too dark for just pale and munich. Also shoot for 45 IBUs.

The recipe I would go with would be something like:

83% Pale Malt
15% Munich
2% Crystal

Bitter with POR (or Super Pride) to 45 IBUs
1-2g/L Fuggles @ 20mins
1-2g/L Fuggles @ 10mins
1-2g/L Fuggles Flameout or Dry Hop

Personally I can't detect any dry hop characteristics - certainly not a whole bunch of hop aroma by the time you get it in the bottleshop. I would think adding the aroma hops at flameout will get you something closer to the packaged product than dry hopping. But that's just my personal tastes I am going off...

 

[DJR]

Rob at MSB told me the IPA isn't dry hopped, not sure if that's true or not. Maybe they changed the recipe since the website was made. Either way i reckon an IPA should be dry hopped, so do it

 

[ForkBoy]

Thanks guys, looks like a great starting point

 

[warrenlw63]

I find it very hard to believe there isn't some kind of medium crystal in there. The colour seems too dark for just pale and munich. Also shoot for 45 IBUs.

The recipe I would go with would be something like:

83% Pale Malt
15% Munich
2% Crystal

Bitter with POR (or Super Pride) to 45 IBUs
1-2g/L Fuggles @ 20mins
1-2g/L Fuggles @ 10mins
1-2g/L Fuggles Flameout or Dry Hop

Personally I can't detect any dry hop characteristics - certainly not a whole bunch of hop aroma by the time you get it in the bottleshop. I would think adding the aroma hops at flameout will get you something closer to the packaged product than dry hopping. But that's just my personal tastes I am going off...

Think you're right TD. If it's dryhopped as JS say I reckon they just dipped the hops in and out for fear of adding too much. :lol: Also think there's some kind of light to medium crystal in there too.

Sometimes I just think that the boys at Malt Shovel love playing secret agent with their recipes. They live in fear of somebody caring enough to pinch them.

Warren -

 

[mikem108]

Chuck raved on about how it was dry hopped at the last tasting I was at, he mentioned how many kilos and I asked him if it sucked up much wort.

Heres a recipe I got from Leon and it came up pretty well when I made it
India Pale Ale V1

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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07-0 India Pale Ale, India Pale Ale

Min OG: 1.050 Max OG: 1.075
Min IBU: 40 Max IBU: 60
Min Clr: 8 Max Clr: 14 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 15.00 Wort Size (L): 15.00
Total Grain (kg): 4.10
Anticipated OG: 1.065 Plato: 15.96
Anticipated SRM: 8.5
Anticipated IBU: 49.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 70 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
----------------

Evaporation Rate: 15.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 18.18 L
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.054 SG 13.29 Plato

Formulas Used
-------------


Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
52.8 2.17 kg. IMC Ale Malt Australia 1.038 2
42.6 1.75 kg. JWM Light Munich Australia 1.038 10
4.6 0.19 kg. JWM Wheat Malt Australia 1.040 2

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
18.75 g. Pride of Ringwood Pellet 10.00 39.5 70 min.
12.50 g. Willamette Pellet 4.90 6.4 30 min.
12.50 g. Fuggle Pellet 5.00 3.4 15 min.
12.50 g. Fuggle Pellet 5.00 0.0 0 min.


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.88 Tsp Chalk Other 90 Min.(mash)
0.62 Tsp Gypsum Other 90 Min.(mash)
0.31 Tsp Epsom Salts Other 90 Min.(mash)
0.31 Tsp Sea salt Other 90 Min.(mash)
0.31 Unit(s)Irish Moss Fining 15 Min.(boil)


Yeast
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White Labs WLP002 English Ale


Water Profile
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Profile: Burton On Trent
Profile known for: Strong Pale Ales

Calcium(Ca): 268.0 ppm
Magnesium(Mg): 62.0 ppm
Sodium(Na): 30.0 ppm
Sulfate(SO4): 638.0 ppm
Chloride(Cl): 36.0 ppm
biCarbonate(HCO3): 141.0 ppm

pH: 8.33


Mash Schedule
-------------

Mash Name: JS Strong Ale

Total Grain kg: 4.10
Total Water Qts: 11.64 - Before Additional Infusions
Total Water L: 11.02 - Before Additional Infusions

Tun Thermal Mass: 0.00
Grain Temp: 20.50 C


Step Rest Start Stop Heat Infuse Infuse Infuse
Step Name Time Time Temp Temp Type Temp Amount Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mash-in 5 90 68 66 Infuse 75 11.02 2.68
Mash-out 2 10 78 78 Infuse 99 7.37 4.48
Sparging 50 0 78 78 Infuse 78 0.00 4.48


Total Water Qts: 19.43 - After Additional Infusions
Total Water L: 18.38 - After Additional Infusions
Total Mash Volume L: 21.12 - After Additional Infusions

All temperature measurements are degrees Celsius.
All infusion amounts are in Liters.
All infusion ratios are Liters/Kilograms.


Notes
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Dry hop with 20gms Fuggles after Racking

 

[pokolbinguy]

Anyon got a Kit version??

Cheers Pok