Imported Beer Now Available At 1st Choice

[thelastspud]

And price them accordingly.

I think everyone here would be happy to pay a bit more for a better quality, Have a look at the commercial whats in the glass thread. You quite often see 10-20 dollar bottles being talked about.

 

[pk.sax]

They taste better over there because of the competition. And what people have come to expect. Who cares in oz! I mean, when the benchmark is VB and Carlton...
To me, kingfisher tastes super bland over here. In India, it was a nice refreshing malty lager with some bitterness to it.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

They aren't cheaper!!!!!!!!

That's the issue - I don't want to pay "imported prices" for lesser quality beer.

Bitburger, oranjeboom, even henninger is better and cheaper than the locally produced BUL "Euro" at the same shop.

If they're shipping these from the other side of the world, and still selling them cheaper, then LionKirin and SABMillerFosters are seriously marking up BUL beer.

 

[sluggerdog]

QLD Catalogue: http://www.1stchoice.com.au/documents/pdf/...ro_20111115.pdf

Last page, 2 for $32 plus the 3rd one is free.

choose from HEINEKEN, STELLA ARTOIS, CARLING BLACK LABEL, BECK'S, CARLSBERG EXPORT OR SAN MIGUEL cans 4x500ml

 

[chunckious]

San Miguel is an alright beer. Pass on the rest.

 

[manticle]

Read the post again. He says the yeast used is a non-CUB yeast. Meaning it is out of house. He also says he doesn't even know what strain it is. Looks like they use a provided strain.

Separate to the quoted post, I don't know why so many people act offended when a beer that is heaps cheaper doesn't end up being as good. I mean, who knew?

He also hints that they use PoR for draught version and 'whatever adjunct is in use at the brewery'.

I think people's objections to a lot of BUL stuff is that they are marketted as (and priced accordingly) premium imported beers. If they were marketted as brewed here in a similar fashion to and priced the same as CD or VB, I doubt people would get up in arms as much.

Also the continued insistence that these beers are exactly the same when it is patently obvious to most that they are not.

It's not really acting offended anyway - it's seeing through marketting smoke and mirrors.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

I think people's objections to a lot of BUL stuff is that they are marketted as (and priced accordingly) premium imported beers. If they were marketted as brewed here in a similar fashion to and priced the same as CD or VB, I doubt people would get up in arms as much.

Also the continued insistence that these beers are exactly the same when it is patently obvious to most that they are not.

It's not really acting offended anyway - it's seeing through marketting smoke and mirrors.

+1 to all this.

Manticle has once again thoroughly articulated the issues that I could not (that and the fact that I was rushing out the door to work).

As an addendum - BUL beer actually started me on the path to craft beer and all-grain brewing. If the BUL Heiny (my favourite euroswill) tasted the same (or was priced lower because you weren't paying for it to be shipped from Europe) - I'd not have started searching around for "what else" I could buy for $15 or so a 6pack.

It started me on the path to Oettinger (not fussed on it), BROK (not cheap enough given it's the same ol' same old), Matilda bay boh pils, JS Sundown Lager and LC Pale Ale.

They were okay, but I saw that each of these marques had some other beers of different varieties.

Up to that point I drank Stout or Pils/lager. Suddenly I was finding Pale Ales (starting with Fat Yak). That started me on the hop path, which started me looking for hoppier and hoppier beers, and eventually making my own hoppier beers (whereas previously I specialised in Dark Beers) and moving to AG brewing to hide the kit twang.

It's interesting that the media always contains reports about the "shrinking beer market" - I wonder if BUL in Australia has contributed to this - because I know that I don't buy much beer at all, whereas I once was a regular consumer of imported Heineken.

Goomba

 

[bum]

I think everyone here would be happy to pay a bit more for a better quality

Yeah, but the imports are definitely available for all these BUL beers - yet the issue still exists.

I think people's objections to a lot of BUL stuff is that they are marketted as (and priced accordingly) premium imported beers. If they were marketted as brewed here in a similar fashion to and priced the same as CD or VB, I doubt people would get up in arms as much.

I think it is pretty unfair on most (if not all) of these BUL beers to suggest that they aren't actually better beers than CD/VB/TED/etc - even if they aren't the same thing as the originals. They are better beers (plus the licensing must cost a packet) so it probably is fair for something of a premium to be charged - not suggesting that the current state of events is exactly how things should be, of course.

My argument is that you get what you pay for - if you're paying a lot less and expecting the same thing then you've probably only got yourself to blame if you are disappointed.

 

[Where's Jim?]

Local dan murphys has Heineken cans and becks bottles - imported versions (either warm on the floor or in the back fridge) for $39 Heineken cans (restaurant pack) and $45 (becks bottles).

Goomba

I've also heard of my mate buying imported Stella bottles from a Dan's store. He said he had no idea until he opened the box and it was a different bottle/label so I assume this was the stock on the floor. In our system at work we have both a BUL and an IMP version of these products so we probably have it in our distro centre yet our store only stocks the BUL products.

Maybe the big two supplement their BUL stock with imports and distribute the imports only to stores that are surrounded by a market they perceive to be picky with their beer (affluent suburbs?)... and then the BUL gets shifted to stores where drinkers aren't as inclined to check the package (or notice the taste difference). It makes sense marketing-wise in order to keep everyone happy and save some $$.

 

[sluggerdog]

[quote name='Where's Jim?' post='841894' date='Nov 16 2011, 11:01 AM']I've also heard of my mate buying imported Stella bottles from a Dan's store. He said he had no idea until he opened the box and it was a different bottle/label so I assume this was the stock on the floor.[/quote]


At my local Dans (Northlakes / Mango Hill) one of the guys working there told me they always stock imported becks and stella in the fridge and the local version hot. Each time I have been there (weekly) this has been the case. It costs a little more usually.

 

[manticle]

My argument is that you get what you pay for - if you're paying a lot less and expecting the same thing then you've probably only got yourself to blame if you are disappointed.

I agree on that score. I find the marketting for BUL to be deceptive, which I guess is mine. I'm certainly not surprised that any marketting would happily make the truth as vague as possible and not being a buyer of BUL products on a large scale, I can certainly live my life without getting inordinately upset. However I do understand people thinking BUL beers are a bit of a rip.

I'm also upset my Chiko roll didn't come with a hot blonde in a tight zipped up jumpsuit and a free motobike.

 

[jameson]

Thanks for the tip off mate got my self a dozen San miguel. Time to chill and see if sipping them from a ice frozen glass brings me right back to the Costa del sol wishing I lived some place warm. Memories

 

[the_new_darren]

Is this AHB or ACB (Commercial Brewers)?

Seems this thread is NOT about homebrewers making beer and hence, off topic. This thread should be deleted by moderaters.

cheers

TND

 

[bum]

What is it about the name of this sub-forum that makes you think talking about HB would be on-topic?

[EDIT: weird extra word]

 

[Bribie G]

Dazzy's pissed again - welcome back Daz

 

[benno1973]

Seems this thread is NOT about homebrewers making beer and hence, off topic. This thread should be deleted by moderaters.

Psst... Dazza... I think people are talking about cider and mead here- lets mention that to the mods while we're there. And these ********* are talking about cooking! WTF?

 

[Brew Matt]

The four "imported" beers you mention are all brewed under licence in Australia by Lion or CUB, or do you mean that this refers to the geniune imported versions of the beers? edit: if 500ml cans then that would be the case as I don't think there are any 500ml Aussie canning facilities.

edit edit: then this would be a good example of Coles doing parallel imports to cut out the big two... yes I think we should support that. It would also be a good opportunity to do our own "parallel" taste check on the imports vs the BUL versions. :beerbang:

I wouldn't have thought there would be a difference between brewed under license & imported until I watch that Stella comparision on Beer Frontier - according to the tasters, they were like comparing 2 different beers......

 

[the_new_darren]

Commercial beer discussions on aussiehomebrewer.com? WTF

Next thing we will see is the advertising space above the forum will be fillled with: Why brew, fresh is here!!! Carlton ...go the Blues..or XXXX the other alternative.

Great that imported beer is being sold here in Australia and that it is fantastic (albeit not new) but there is nothing like trying beer IN the country it is brewed (without the damage done by importation, PLUS you can say you actually sampled the beer in that country)

cheers

tnd

Briber: what you talking about ?? You been on the juice again, messin' wid ya pots?

 

[Bribie G]

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[the_new_darren]

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