I want to get elected!

[stakka82]

Yeah that's where you need strong political leadership, where it's done for the common good, regardless of it being popular or not. Also needs cooperation between both parties, a hint of partisan politics and the thing is dead in the water.

Alas, we have very weak leadership and partisan politics is rife.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

Look at how much opposition the James price point gas hub generated (it recently got struck down in court), and that's on an unpopulated stretch of coast near Broome. For every person like you who might say "Hey I've got no problem living near one" there'll be another several dozens angry parents with prams who will kick up a very loud fuss.

while you're absolutely right about NIMBY's & nuclear power plants, JPP isn't entirely relevant in this case. It was rejected due to a combination of things - environmental protection, extremely rare dinosaur tracks and their significance for palaeontology and something to do with their importance to the local aboriginal songlines. They're going to process the gas offshore now.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Bunbury is a perfect location.

Gellong....aparently some car maker will have space avaiable

 

[Phoney]

while you're absolutely right about NIMBY's & nuclear power plants, JPP isn't entirely relevant in this case. It was rejected due to a combination of things - environmental protection, extremely rare dinosaur tracks and their significance for palaeontology and something to do with their importance to the local aboriginal songlines. They're going to process the gas offshore now.

I know, I was using it as an extreme example. Whichever location you'll find for a nuke powerplant someone will find reasons to reject it.

As for strong political leadership and bipartisan politics? Ha. No matter who is in power, if an opposition see's an opportunity to get mileage out of hitching their wagon to community anger, they'll jump on it. Populism over pragmatism is how they operate.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Maybe the NIMBY's can ring this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fstxnZ2VCFw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[nu_brew]

In Victoria you can't build a wind turbine within 2km of a residence, how far away will a nuke plant have to be?

 

[treefiddy]

In Victoria you can't build a wind turbine within 2km of a residence, how far away will a nuke plant have to be?

I guess that depends on how much life threatening, inaudible infrasound they create.

Edit: Probably a lot.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

And the epileptic strobing from the shadows of the rotating arms

 

[Liam_snorkel]

Chortle

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Stop that

You will upset the hairy eared yellow nose lesser foot Numroo

 

[jlm]

I'm more concerned about the meatbeater's possum. Its been in the news a bit.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Would that be the silver meatbeater or large eared meatbeater

 

[TasChris]

yeah, those kooky greens.

http://www.greens.org.au/policies/sustainable-agriculture

Hmmm the devil is in the detail..
The Greens have detailed that most things fall in the "inappropriate" category for bio fuels such as hardwood plantation residue, pine plantation residue, native forest residue, saw mill residue...the list goes on and on.
The Greens are notorious for releasing broad policy statements that they are in favour of something then you read through the detail and they have put so many conditions/limitations in place that the end results is that they have basically closed the door.

Cheers
Chris

 

[bum]

I want to get erected.

 

[jyo]

I want to get erected.

Racist.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

@ TasChris - fair enough assessment. They are restrictive in terms of environmental control but not "against" biofuels as your first post implied. Got a source for the residue comments? I'm honestly interested.
Cheers.

 

[goomboogo]

I want to get erected.

As long as you have the appropriate permits.

 

[bum]

When time permits?

 

[TasChris]

@ TasChris - fair enough assessment. They are restrictive in terms of environmental control but not "against" biofuels as your first post implied. Got a source for the residue comments? I'm honestly interested.
Cheers.

trying to find a link that I have read.

Below are two media reports.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-09/oakeshott-forest-plan-objections/3879546#site=ballarat

http://lee-rhiannon.greensmps.org.au/content/speeches-parliament/speech-senate-burning-native-forest-wood-waste-electricity-should-not-be

The opposing of renewable energy credits for native forests, plantations and mill waste effectively scuttled the idea. The Labor party, Wilkie, Windsor and the Greens all voted against REC's.

Cheers
Chris

 

[mash head]

An interesting article where PEW admit it targeted Australia for marine parks but would not do the same to it own country because it would be bad for the economy. But YEAH there a ******* great idea here.
http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/pew-admits-it-targeted-australia-for-lockouts-left-us-alone

It is still unproven that marine protected areas within a well managed fishery have any benefit.