Here's something we already knew.

[Matplat]

I love how these threads digress...

 

[Dave70]

Bit of a tongue in cheek look at how correlative evidence isn't always what it seems. or more to the point, what the media would have us believe.
Especially in light of the hysteria surrounding the recent WHO scaremongering that eating red meat poses a similar risk to smoking in regard to cancer. That should sell some newspapers.

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

When we know eating anything at any time is the actual culprit..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3193565/

 

[Black n Tan]

Bit of a tongue in cheek look at how correlative evidence isn't always what it seems. or more to the point, what the media would have us believe.
Especially in light of the hysteria surrounding the recent WHO scaremongering that eating red meat poses a similar risk to smoking in regard to cancer. That should sell some newspapers.

I did enjoy the correlation analysis especially the Nick Cave songs and drowning, i have long suspected a link so it is good to see it proven. I have just removed the sheets from the bed just to be safe, don't want to get struggled during the night.

However in fairness the WHO have not indicated that red meat has a similar risk to smoking in regard to cancer. "Processed meat has been classified in the same category as causes of cancer such as tobacco smoking and asbestos (IARC Group 1, carcinogenic to humans), but this does NOT mean that they are all equally dangerous. The IARC classifications describe the strength of the scientific evidence about an agent being a cause of cancer, rather than assessing the level of risk."

 

[wide eyed and legless]

What was good to see in one of the Michael Mosley documentaries was, it was the leaner red meat was more carcinogenic than the fattier meat.

 

[Dave70]

I did enjoy the correlation analysis especially the Nick Cave songs and drowning, i have long suspected a link so it is good to see it proven. I have just removed the sheets from the bed just to be safe, don't want to get struggled during the night.

However in fairness the WHO have not indicated that red meat has a similar risk to smoking in regard to cancer. "Processed meat has been classified in the same category as causes of cancer such as tobacco smoking and asbestos (IARC Group 1, carcinogenic to humans), but this does NOT mean that they are all equally dangerous. The IARC classifications describe the strength of the scientific evidence about an agent being a cause of cancer, rather than assessing the level of risk."

Trouble with that is A: Its old news that processed meat is a ******* food - B: All folk see is the headlines, an no less a periodical than the NY Times - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/27/health/report-links-some-types-of-cancer-with-processed-or-red-meat.html

What was good to see in one of the Michael Mosley documentaries was, it was the leaner red meat was more carcinogenic than the fattier meat.

I think the research in that section of Mosleys program dealt with heart disease, in particular the way L-carnatine reacts with bacteria in the gut.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-links-l-carnitine-in-red-meat-to-heart-disease-201304176083

The research couldn't be to conclusive as you can still purchase it in supplement form.
http://www.aussiesupplements.com.au/store/amino-acids/l-carnitine-tartrate/

The highest risk factor seems to be how the meat is prepared. So living on a diet straight from the BBQ Pitmasters school of smoked and charred fatty read meat may not be a wisest choice according to the research.
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/cooked-meats-fact-sheet




*edit - bad linky*

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I think the research in that section of Mosleys program dealt with heart disease, in particular the way L-carnatine reacts with bacteria in the gut.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-links-l-carnitine-in-red-meat-to-heart-disease-201304176083

You are right Dave, getting the cardiac mixed up with the cancer.

The other thing we as consumers of beer have to watch is obesity, another killer.