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[Leyther]

Did a little test on the dead space tonight, I had 4L of water, opened the tap and poured in until started to run out, started to come out about 3L and then probably ran another 1-200ml out before it stopped, hence I'd say the dead space is somewhere between 2.5-3L, I'll go with 2.75 for Beersmith for now.

Still not sure about that grommit, my little pack says 1 x valve spacer (for spare) I look at where it could go and didnt think it would be any benefit anywhere.

BTW what size tubing do you run from the tap into your cube, I had some 10mm around but it looks bigger than that so I probably need to get some more.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I didn't get a note with the grommet just noticed it fitted the overflow tube, could well be a spare valve washer I have yet to remove the valve.
The tube would be 12 mm I have 13 mm and put a hose clamp on because it isn't a tight fit.
You might be interested in this Leyther.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psVrphoMKqg

 

[mattyh77]

Not sure if it's the same size as Robobrew, but they recommend 12.5mm silicon tubing.

 

[Leyther]

Picked up some 13mm from bunnings tonight, as close as could find, had to buy 5m of the stuff as they didn't have any smaller!! wasnt planning on 20 bucks for bit of tube but will probably come in handy somewhere down the line.

I saw the MattMill but seems to be only available in EU, I'll see how I go with the Bazooka first. I'm still keen on using the pump to fill my fermentor, just watched the grainfather vid where he does this, doesnt seem to have any issues with pump blocking but not sure if th the GF has a filter on the pump at all and if its in similar location, on the guten its below the bazooka, a whirlpool will help as the inlet seems to be offset a little, will see how I go on the weekend.

 

[Leyther]

WEAL,

how quickly does the strike water heat up? I was thinking I might set a socket timer on it so its at the mash temp when I get up Sunday but if its not too long I'll just leave it. Also do you know if this would work? as it seems all the settings are done via the PCB I wonder if I set the program then turn off whether it would actually do anything when the power comes on or would it loose that program? have you tried this at all?

Cheers

Leyther

 

[wide eyed and legless]

It doesn't take long to heat up I set the power to 2kw, but lower the power output for the mash, I wonder if Magic Pancake had set his power to 2.5kw and not adjusted it in his steps when he started the scorching on mashout.
What is your water volume going to be for mash in and what grist to liquor ratio did you end up going with?

 

[Leyther]

I'm still not certain on those (see my other post on first AG - mash). It will either be 13L or 18L and the grain bill is approx 5kg. Will add sparge to bring upto ~28L.

I think on the latest MP video he sets the mash power down to 1500 once he reaches strike temp. I noticed on the GF vid he drops down to 500watt for the mash, I guess the lower you can get away with but keeping the temp constant is ideal.

Sounds like I wont need the timer, I'll pop on full power when I get up, make a brew (tea!) and take it from there.

 

[620rossco]

Hey WEAL are you going to buy a bazooka replacement kit?
It looks good.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Does look good googled it and came to a retailer in Holland actually a couple then saw a home made one, looking around the $100 inc delivery so I might have a crack at the home made one I have some of that braided hose in the shed.

Sent MattMill an email just in case.

 

[Leyther]

I was in bunnings last night but only thing I could find that looked like it was shower hose, obviosuly thats not gonna work unless you remove the inner tubing. If you can source the raw materials I reckon would be quite easy and has to be better than the simple mesh one thats held on with jubilee clip

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I have already made mine but for anyone interested the Lauter helix is $93.75 delivered.

 

[Leyther]

I have already made mine but for anyone interested the Lauter helix is $93.75 delivered.

After my brew day today I think this is the biggest (massive) mistake with the whole thing, it works great but I only got about 1.5L out before it blocked,the BAZOOKA is IMO s piece of *****!!!! I ended up using the pump into fermentor because it just wouldn't drain (and the the storm game was kicking off!!), ive ended up with about 3L of trub in the fermenentor which I'm a bit pissed about because after fermentation I probably wont even get 19L.

Its an awesome piece of kit, works brilliantly except that last part, needs an alterntive...hop basket or bag or different method .

 

[SBOB]

what would you call that hose/spring they use in that bazooka replacement kit?
pretty sure there would be plenty of DIY 1V setups that wouldnt mind a pickup option like that


looks like a 1/2" loose spring rather than a braided hose, but a google didnt help me find anything like that

 

[wide eyed and legless]

You have to google spiral tubing, I did but there was to much information to get through to find where that particular spiral tube is made, will be in Germany no doubt, I still may get the Brau Fox one as it will be easier to clean than the braiding.

You need a hopsock Leyther, let me know if you want one.

 

[Leyther]

You can see the issue here, I think I'll get one of those hop baskets for next time, will also mean I can use the pump to transfer without being concerned about blocking it, although it coped fine yesterday

 

[RobW]

The Springer from BAC Brewing is a nice bit of kit designed for the Braumeister and could do the job - but a bit exxy (esp after freight is added).

Cheers

Rob

 

[Leyther]

Another observation from my brew day, those volume markings on the side of the machine seem well off, I wonder if they are with the malt pipe in but then you wouldn't be able to see them so they seem a bit pointless

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Had another Google tonight found this Italian job 46 Euro presume it is also including 20% sales tax so comes down to 36.8 Euro around the 50 AUD + Postage, anyone interested?
http://www.birramia.it/en/lauterhelixr-1000-bazooka-filter.html#.WNjJGFWGPX5

 

[goid]

You can see the issue here, I think I'll get one of those hop baskets for next time, will also mean I can use the pump to transfer without being concerned about blocking it, although it coped fine yesterday

You might be able to put a 90 degree elbow and run the bazooka around the side of pot. Also with a good whirlpool might help.

 

[Leyther]

Had another Google tonight found this Italian job 46 Euro presume it is also including 20% sales tax so comes down to 36.8 Euro around the 50 AUD + Postage, anyone interested?
http://www.birramia.it/en/lauterhelixr-1000-bazooka-filter.html#.WNjJGFWGPX5

I'd definately be interested, did you contact them for price on postage and did they confirm they would remove the sales tax?

I'm not far from you either in Moorabbin so if we can do a single postage and save could be worthwhile.

I

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Yes I have contacted them, Australia is not on their postage list so will have to wait for the reply, I have found shops in the UK do not like to take off the VAT
but other European countries will .

 

[620rossco]

50 AUD + Postage, anyone interested?

Cheers for that WEAL let me know what you can do.
Definitely interested.

Rossco

 

[fdsaasdf]

Cheers for that WEAL let me know what you can do.
Definitely interested.

Rossco

also interested

 

[wide eyed and legless]

All noted, hopefully hear back today.

 

[620rossco]

No stress they put back delivery of the 50l two weeks.
They recon that they are working on the water gauge.
I am hoping this means that the marks on the side resemble the actual amount.

 

[Leyther]

No stress they put back delivery of the 50l two weeks.
They recon that they are working on the water gauge.
I am hoping this means that the marks on the side resemble the actual amount.

Haha, I hope so the ones on the 30L I think are just for show as they are way off from my experience, not sure how they could get it so wrong so maybe I am reading something wrongly, maybe they've taken the dead space under the false bottom into account?

 

[malt and barley blues]

I will take a helix WEAL.

 

[620rossco]

Hi Guys,

I sent Sophia who is a sales rep for Aust at Guten a link to this thread.
They sent 2 emails back:

Dear Ross,
Thank you for your kindly information.

Please kindly help me to post " Adjust the pump flow rate is very important" .
Slower flow rate of pump is better.

If element burn out, you can use some vinegar to clean it.

I read the final comment as use vinegar to remove the adhesive on a burned out element.

This machine is designed for immerse chiller.
If using counter flow chiller, the ingredient may block the pump.

Interesting because I think the GF uses a counter flow chiller.

 

[Leyther]

I think the vinegar comment is probably more likely to mean you can clean any burn marks off the SS not disolve the element cement.

With regards to the pump, I had a lot of trub in my batch and I used the pump to get into fermentor as the bazooka was blocked, pump worked fine, when I finished I took the bottom off and looked at the pump to see if I needed to clean and drain any trub out but was no sign of any. BTW I assume if the pump does block you need to remove the clear tubing to drain it? I didn't see anything else that was obvious as a drain point, just looks like 10-12mm tubing held on with plastic ties.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Interesting rossco about the counterflow chiller being as they are both the same pump, also interesting Leyther is you have cable ties on your pump connections I have hose clamps on mine.
May be worthwhile rossco to send a link to Sophia about the Lauter Helix, they are keen to listen to any comments to improve their system, let her know that the bazooka is disappointing, even though using a hop sock I haven't had a problem but always aware that I may strike the bazooka when whirlpooling.
I have sent 2 emails now to different retailers of that Italian Helix and heard nothing back, either lazy bastards or not keen on sending to Australia, think it is probably the former.