Goodbye Bronwyn

[wide eyed and legless]

I will put my hand up for voting in Tony Abbot and yes he has ****** up, can't believe the Bishop scandal went on for over 2 weeks, and all the *** for tat which has followed, as for gay marriage, not being a religious person I don't feel I could make a call on that, though I can't see why any gays would want to marry in a religious ceremony when most religions oppose relationships between the same gender.
The Government has to get stuck into the more important issues which our nation is facing.

 

[Bridges]

Yeah there is this thing you may not be up with called a civil ceremony, it is in the eyes of the law a marriage, same as if it happened in a church. Gay marriage is to give same sex couples the same legal rights as couples, it also stops the inference that people are some how inferior or second class as they are section of society is barred from participating in something. I do agree with some of what you have said above however WEAL, yes Tony Abbott has ****** up, he seems to find new ways to look like a **** at almost every turn. Also that the government needs to actually get to work on the big issues, getting bogged down in gay marriage is a joke and makes us look like a nation of backwards bigots.

I don't see how people can sit back and say if you gay you can't marry, when if you changed out the word gay for any other minority people would be outraged.

 

[JDW81]

The Government has to get stuck into the more important issues which our nation is facing.

That is never going to happen. Tony is too busy chasing polls, defending his captains picks and sticking up for Royal Commissioners who are blatantly partisan. Now watch him cut taxes and throw money around like a drunken sailor in an attempt to save his own bacon and get re-elected.

They couldn't give a **** about the common man, all they care about is their own career and keeping their "entitlements" so they can live in a style to which they have become accustomed.

 

[booargy]

I vote liberal and I also go to a place to get my balls stomped on once a week.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

WEAL- Marriage is definitely not a religious ceremony. Mine certainly wasn't, I was married by a civil celebrant.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Liam I didn't realize it until Bridges mentioned it, I thought it was strange wanting to get married, mistakenly thinking in the eyes of God after they had been persecuted for hundreds of years by religious zealots.
As for the Royal Commission into Union Corruption JDW81 whoever would have been chosen would have some political belief, the four who have been arrested so far were arrested by police over testimony given, not because of anything Dyson Heydon instructed. Even if they replaced him who's to say that the next commissioner would be biased, which by the way has not been proven against DH.
I don't contribute to any union but if I did I would be bloody angry, using their position to blackmail and intimidate business owners for their own gain, as well as misappropriating union funds.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

The Royal Commission into Trade Unions is a blatant political witch hunt. Everyone knows that

In fact, the original terms of reference had to be changed so that it wasnt a royal commission into the Labor Party.

Abbott has a vendetta and thats why he started it. All about trying to destroy the Labor Party.

But it looks like all he has done is to bring his own ambitions and his party crashing down.

Once it got out that Dyson accepted that invite to give a speech the whole thing is basically shown its true colours. No one is now going to take it seriously and the people are going to ask why they spent $80m on a vendictive campaign.

Stick with the LNP weal. You the only only left who loves them B)

 

[spog]

Weal,you mentioned in the eyes of God.
All this marriage equality crap is , well its crap. After all are we all not equal in the eyes of God ? if any one is religious that about covers it.
Also I heard on the radio on Friday that a group ofAboriginal elders delivered a hand written protest to the Gov on same sex marriage, curiously I have heard no more as this is a hot topic maybe their voice will not be heard or its not worthy .
+1 on your comment about Unions as far as I'm concerned they can get a dog up em.

And checking...checking,yep that about covers it. I feel better now.

 

[booargy]

What I found interesting is that someone asks for a bribe and the person pays it but only one is arrested. So if a copper asks for a bribe and I pay it only the copper can be arrested?

 

[SBOB]

WEAL- Marriage is definitely not a religious ceremony. Mine certainly wasn't, I was married by a civil celebrant.

Likewise, and a large number of marriages in this country are not religious based (I would say majority but can't be bothered backing that up with actual facts) .

The fact that a referendum/plebiscite is proposed as the best way to determine whether a minority group should be given equal rights is down right crazy to me.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Well it was a labour Prime Minister who set up the AWU slush fund before she was Prime Minister into which hundreds of thousands of dollars has gone through, none of the ordinary members has received any of that money it has been shared out with the men at the top.
As for the Royal Commission into the Labour Party DBS lets not forget it was the unions who actually formed the labour party, are you happy then stu with the way the trade unionist at the top are receiving bribes and misappropriating union funds, stealing off their own members Kate Jackson $1.3 million, Craig Thompson $28,000 for prostitutes the union movement is not above the law and should face the consequences.

 

[Bridges]

Kate Jackson $1.3 million, Craig Thompson $28,000 for prostitutes the union movement is not above the law and should face the consequences.

But why do we need to waste money on a royal commission. Illegal activity should be pretty well covered by current laws why not just use those to prosecute the guilty.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Well it was a labour Prime Minister who set up the AWU slush fund before she was Prime Minister into which hundreds of thousands of dollars has gone through, none of the ordinary members has received any of that money it has been shared out with the men at the top.
As for the Royal Commission into the Labour Party DBS lets not forget it was the unions who actually formed the labour party, are you happy then stu with the way the trade unionist at the top are receiving bribes and misappropriating union funds, stealing off their own members Kate Jackson $1.3 million, Craig Thompson $28,000 for prostitutes the union movement is not above the law and should face the consequences.

WEAL...Even your beloved liberal party is not immune to corruption....

Apart from that I really dont give a **** what you think of the Unions or the Labor Party.

Your an LNP fanboy, so stick with, they need all the help and support they can get right now B)

 

[JDW81]

As for the Royal Commission into Union Corruption JDW81 whoever would have been chosen would have some political belief, the four who have been arrested so far were arrested by police over testimony given, not because of anything Dyson Heydon instructed. Even if they replaced him who's to say that the next commissioner would be biased, which by the way has not been proven against DH.

I was referring to the fact he had agreed to be the key-note speaker at a liberal party fundraiser, while holding the position of Royal Commissioner, highlighting his partisanship. I agree that anyone appointed would be viewed in a political light, however agreeing to speak at a party fundraiser mid-commission throws into doubt his ability to remain impartial.

 

[manticle]

My politics are far more aligned with yours than they are with WEAL's Stu but please keep it civil.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Some light reading

http://thesauce.co/achievements-of-the-abbott-government/

 

[seamad]

Some light reading

http://thesauce.co/achievements-of-the-abbott-government/

You can condense this government down to one word ( borrowed from the thick of it ) :
omnishambolic

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[wide eyed and legless]

What would you call the previous Government seamad, double omnishambolic :lol:

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

At least the last government had a heart..

Something sadly lacking with the current bunch of cold heartless pricks. They prefer authoritarian rule and keeping secrets.

 

[manticle]

I'm scratching my head to think of why either governmental incarnation is preferable or should be given a pat on the back. The current one is performing dreadfully, regardless of which side of the political divide you sit (as paltry as that actually is).

I'm not a social conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but if I were I would be severely disappointed.