For the dreamers

[O'Henry]

Job at Young Henry's, Sydney.

 

[doon]

For the dreamers that have extensive experience and education

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

WTF do KPI's have to do with brewing. They are a bullshit system designed by managers who have NFI how the world works

 

[Dan Pratt]

WTF do KPI's have to do with brewing. They are a bullshit system designed by managers who have NFI how the world works

if your not a manager then that is the expected response!

 

[mje1980]

Because they ensure consistency and a measurable bench mark. I'm not a manager but it makes sense to have a system in place to gauge how your business performs.

A lot of the time a manager doesn't need to know the process of the business. Why does a manager of a brewery need to know how to brew?. You pay them for their managing skills, not brewing skills.

 

[Vanoontour]

Ideally though, If the manager is not 100% knowledgable on the process then any KPI's should be mutually agreed, but enforced.

 

[mje1980]

Haha how the KPI's are decided upon and how they are enforced/applied is a different issue for sure. Nevertheless having something to judge your ongoing progress against is a good idea. Unfortunately reality has to come into play sometimes.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Meh.....managers relly on the workers to meet their KPI's. I care little for KPI's

 

[Phoney]

I have all of the preferred qualities. But sadly, none of the required skills and experience.

 

[mje1980]

Meh.....managers relly on the workers to meet their KPI's. I care little for KPI's

Exactly that's why they don't need to know anything about brewing. They ensure the KPI's are met by the workers/employees, that is one of the main parts of their job. I work in a very large company, and while I agree with your sentiment, and am usually on the end of some ridiculously irrelevant KPIs I understand their function. Just because your manager is a dickhead and knows **** all about the process, doesn't mean he isn't a good manager.

 

[mje1980]

You arsehole you just made me defend management. Union won't be happy with me now.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I suppose they will send you off to one of them team building/bonding session with some overpaid knobjockey. When I was on the railways we just went to the pub and got shitfaced. I no one ended up with a black eye it was called a success and repeated many many time.

 

[NewtownClown]

Exactly that's why they don't need to know anything about brewing. They ensure the KPI's are met by the workers/employees, that is one of the main parts of their job. I work in a very large company, and while I agree with your sentiment, and am usually on the end of some ridiculously irrelevant KPIs I understand their function. Just because your manager is a dickhead and knows **** all about the process, doesn't mean he isn't a good manager.

YH's "management" knows everything about brewing...

 

[mje1980]

I don't doubt it. I was talking in general mate not specifically those guys.

 

[wbosher]

We can bitch all we like about management and their silly rules, but if it wasn't for bosses, none of us would have a job.

 

[JDW81]

To the OP:

I'm sure there are a couple of lurkers here who hold the requisite qualifications and have said experience to be able to fit the job description. A few come to mind, but I won't single them out.

 

[Crusty]

I wonder what the pay is?
I bet you it's shit. I rang a company that was looking for an assistant brewer just for some more info than he had in his ad & **** me, you needed to be a bio-chemist, accountant & possibly a lawyer, work most weekends & evenings for a really attractive salary of $55.000. Are you ******* kidding me. Good luck finding someone with those qualifications who wants to take a massive pay cut just so they can work in the craft beer industry.
I think some of these owners are seriously off their chops.
Yep! I'm a dreamer too.

 

[Dave70]

if its such an awesome job, why'd the last bloke leave?

 

[O'Henry]

I think 55K for a craft brewery is not bad, but they would be having a laugh if they offered 55K for the role they have outlined. Sadly, entry level brewing jobs are closer to 40K, which is a bummer.

But, entry level brewing jobs in the UK pay around 12-16000 pounds, bit more if you are in London, similar in the States. I guess people pay what they can afford, then what they can get away with.

 

[wbosher]

There's no mention of salary in the ad (at least I can't see it), could be a lot more than 55k