Coopers Mexican Cerveza

[Jimboley]

Been in the bottle two weeks now, also dry hopped with 20g of glacier, had a few yesterday with some friends who helped harvest my crop of garlic. Very refreshing, plenty of citrus and peach flavours, light body, gentle bitterness at the end. Had to whack a few more in the freezer to cool quicky everyone knocked them back so fast. Got what i was after, an easy drinking beer with a good hit of flavour.

Excellent! sounds good.

 

[mkstalen]

Last week I kegged the following:
Coopers Mex tin
1kg LDME
500g Dex
250g Crystal steeped at 68deg for 20min
20g Galaxy 20min
15g Galaxy 7min


Had the first glass on Friday arvo, very happy. Turned out a little Fat Yak-ish

 

[Bubba]

I kegged a Coopers Cerveza as follows, it turned out bloody nice and I have a mate who is a Sommelier and he thought it was great (as a girl beer for hot summer arvos).

Coopers Creveza
BE2 1kg
Exta 200g Dex
Juice 2 limes and put juice in water and some of the BE2 and bring to the boil
Rind of 2 limes (none of the white stuff though) in hop bag, add to the boil for 5minutes only
At flame out add 15-20g Cascade hops in hop sock (you could also dry hop in fermenter), and add it all to fermenter
Top to 23l
I added kit yeast, but think US-05 would be great and clean
Kept to 20 degrees for 9 days and kegged.

My Sommelier mate said he could detect crushed pineapple on the back palet, but I think it was just the Cascade, anyway a very fresh, clean beer, subtle hints of lime and a real refresher on a hot day...definately something quick easy and a crowd pleaser for the Xmas drinkers!

 

[Bribie G]

Shyte - it just occurred to me - just over a month to Christmas and all I'll have in kegs will be Yorkshire Reds, Speckled Hens, Dunkels etc. I'm going to get hung out to dry if I don't crank out something yellow and mega. Might just run up a quick mini BIAB in my new electric stockpot arrangement with a kilo of base malt I have surplus, add a can of Cerveza and 750 dex, I have Galena coming out of my ears and S-189 at 19 degrees.

Done and dusted by Xmas no worries.

 

[Jimboley]

I kegged a Coopers Cerveza as follows, it turned out bloody nice and I have a mate who is a Sommelier and he thought it was great (as a girl beer for hot summer arvos).

Coopers Creveza
BE2 1kg
Exta 200g Dex
Juice 2 limes and put juice in water and some of the BE2 and bring to the boil
Rind of 2 limes (none of the white stuff though) in hop bag, add to the boil for 5minutes only
At flame out add 15-20g Cascade hops in hop sock (you could also dry hop in fermenter), and add it all to fermenter
Top to 23l
I added kit yeast, but think US-05 would be great and clean
Kept to 20 degrees for 9 days and kegged.

My Sommelier mate said he could detect crushed pineapple on the back palet, but I think it was just the Cascade, anyway a very fresh, clean beer, subtle hints of lime and a real refresher on a hot day...definately something quick easy and a crowd pleaser for the Xmas drinkers!

Great recipe and well constructed. Now you just have to hold off drinking it all by Xmas.
If you end up using the US05 in another batch I'd recommend a 18C-20C ferment for a good result.
Good point to boil the lime juice with the sugar and also not using the bitter white pith on the lime.
Keep up the good work!

 

[Bubba]

Great recipe and well constructed. Now you just have to hold off drinking it all by Xmas.
If you end up using the US05 in another batch I'd recommend a 18C-20C ferment for a good result.
Good point to boil the lime juice with the sugar and also not using the bitter white pith on the lime.
Keep up the good work!

No need to worry, I have another Cerveza down ready to keg this coming weekend to keep for Christmas, plan to have 4 kegs running at Christmas. 1 Golden Ale, 2 CPA clones, 1 Cerveza and have a stock of 90 bottles ready to go!
Should be a festive season!
I agree with the 18-20 with US-05, keeping to themp down using frozed PET bottles and blankets I can get it pretty close in summer.
Have a good one!

 

[bcurtis1980]

I know this thread has been dead for a while but I'm looking for some help with my mexican cerveza.

Ive used the cerveza tin and the yeast that comes with it and BE2 as recommended on the tin.

My SG was 1036 and my current reading is 1012 thus giving an current abv of around 3.7%, it has been fermenting at around 18-21c for 9 days and the reading has been 1012 for the last two days.

Can i add more sugar at this stage to bump up the abv or am i stuck with 3.7% as this is a little weak for me, i'd prefer around 4.5-5%. Has fermentation finished as my hydrometer readings have been the same the last two days?

Also, is it best to transfer my batch to another fermenting bucket to try and leave the sediment in the bottom of the first bucket or should i just bottle from the bucket it's currently in?

I'm gonna use coopers carbonation drops to bottle, maybe a stupid question but when i bottle and add the carbonation drops and leave my bottles for a few weeks, do the carbonation drops then increase the abv of the beer as long as you leave the bottles for a while or are they just to give fizz when opening the bottles?

Any help/advice would me much appreciated.

 

[Bogan333]

27.8.11
1.7kg Coopers Mexican Cerveza
1 kg Dextrose
1 Brew Enhancer 1
7g Lime Zest
7g Coopers Yeast
7g Fining
23 l Spring Water
Carbonation Drops two per 640ml Amber glass Bottle

Temperature 24c
OG 1.066
FG 1.008
8.2%
Bottled 3/9/11

Opening: lots of Fizz and smoke
Look: EBC 2? A very Pale Ale, lot's of carbonation and a very good white head
Aroma: very fruity, No hops aroma
Taste :IBU 5, Light, very sweet, very little malt and very refreshing
The same as: very close to Corona but better

 

[J Grimmer]

Can i add more sugar at this stage to bump up the abv or am i stuck with 3.7% as this is a little weak for me, i'd prefer around 4.5-5%. Has fermentation finished as my hydrometer readings have been the same the last two days?

Also, is it best to transfer my batch to another fermenting bucket to try and leave the sediment in the bottom of the first bucket or should i just bottle from the bucket it's currently in?

I'm gonna use coopers carbonation drops to bottle, maybe a stupid question but when i bottle and add the carbonation drops and leave my bottles for a few weeks, do the carbonation drops then increase the abv of the beer as long as you leave the bottles for a while or are they just to give fizz when opening the bottles?

Any help/advice would me much appreciated.

Hi BCurtis,

To answer your questions the simple answer is yes to all.

To incvrease the abv% I would think that another 500g of LDME/Dextrose would put your gravity to where you want.

Transferring to a secondary vessel can be done but is not nessesary sometimes it is good to wake up your yeast or if your planning to age a brew, as a rule i generally dont but that me personally and have brews on the yeast cake for up to 4 weeks.

Finally carb drops will do both, the secondary fermentation will convert the sugar to alcohole and give of Co2 which cant escape the lid on the bottle thus carbonating your beer. Generally you can add .5% to the abv.

hope that helps

Jan

 

[bcurtis1980]

Hi BCurtis,

To answer your questions the simple answer is yes to all.

To incvrease the abv% I would think that another 500g of LDME/Dextrose would put your gravity to where you want.

Transferring to a secondary vessel can be done but is not nessesary sometimes it is good to wake up your yeast or if your planning to age a brew, as a rule i generally dont but that me personally and have brews on the yeast cake for up to 4 weeks.

Finally carb drops will do both, the secondary fermentation will convert the sugar to alcohole and give of Co2 which cant escape the lid on the bottle thus carbonating your beer. Generally you can add .5% to the abv.

hope that helps

Jan

Cheers for the reply!!!

I've only got 1kg of brewing sugar in the house will this do the job??

How much longer roughly would I have to leave it for if i was to add more sugar?? Temp wise i'm sitting around 18 c, the very highest i'm getting is 21, am in Scotland can't really expect much more although the weather is not bad at the moment....indian summer in next few days apparentyl!!!

Also, if i were to add more sugar, will this alter the taste much or will it just make the abv stronger but the body/taste of the beer will stay the same??

cheers

Ben ( first time brewer )

 

[J Grimmer]

Cheers for the reply!!!

I've only got 1kg of brewing sugar in the house will this do the job??

How much longer roughly would I have to leave it for if i was to add more sugar?? Temp wise i'm sitting around 18 c, the very highest i'm getting is 21, am in Scotland can't really expect much more although the weather is not bad at the moment....indian summer in next few days apparentyl!!!

Also, if i were to add more sugar, will this alter the taste much or will it just make the abv stronger but the body/taste of the beer will stay the same??

cheers

Ben ( first time brewer )

Hi Ben,

Sugars generally only are used to increase the abv and make the beer feel thinner in the mouth. They can some times leave a cidery flavour in the beer. So having said that adding 500g of sugar will put you in the ball park of what your aiming for, personally i would use LDME but that is just me.

Seeing that you have already had this brewing for close to 2 weeks it sounds like its done according to your SG readings and can be bottled now. Adding the additional fermentable maybe another week or so, just use your hydrometer see once its done.

Temp wise 18-21 temp range is fine for a kit yeast, raising the temp towards the end of fermentation can help eating up some residual sugars, so don't sweat it, the yeast has done the bulk of the work.

I would stress, if your happy with how it is now then your pretty close to where want to be so you could put it down to learning this is your first brew so don't expect to get every thing right as your learning the process.

One tool i have found works well is the K&K spreadsheet link http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...9655&st=380, it can help plan your next brew.

Jan.

 

[J Grimmer]

Hi Ben,

Sugars generally only are used to increase the abv and make the beer feel thinner in the mouth. They can some times leave a cidery flavour in the beer. So having said that adding 500g of sugar will put you in the ball park of what your aiming for, personally i would use LDME but that is just me.

Seeing that you have already had this brewing for close to 2 weeks it sounds like its done according to your SG readings and can be bottled now. Adding the additional fermentable maybe another week or so, just use your hydrometer see once its done.

Temp wise 18-21 temp range is fine for a kit yeast, raising the temp towards the end of fermentation can help eating up some residual sugars, so don't sweat it, the yeast has done the bulk of the work.

I would stress, if your happy with how it is now then your pretty close to where want to be so you could put it down to learning this is your first brew so don't expect to get every thing right as your learning the process.

One tool i have found works well is the K&K spreadsheet by IanH - link - http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...9655&st=380, it can help plan your next brew.

Jan.

 

[Bribie G]

LDME = "light spray malt" where you are.
Yes it would definitely improve flavour and mouthfeel compared to sugar or glucose, consider it for your next batch.

Another trick would to be using a tin of Lyles Golden Syrup plus an extra 200g sugar to lend a bit more interest. Lyles is partly "inverted" and will ferment faster.

 

[Bats]

I have had a lot of success with Coopers Mexican Cerveza and dry hopping with Super Alpha hops. I'm told that's the hop variety used in Corona but don't quote me on it. I lagered it for a while and the amount of citrus notes that came out was awesome. I'm guessing Super Alpha and Glacier, one or the other would be on par.

 

[mattyc]

I carbonated for 2.7 vol of CO2.

Is this around the mid range for this style? Going to bulk prime into Tap King bottles next week.

 

[joshF]

I'd think corona may be even less than that, say 2.3 or 2.4 but It's probably hard to pick up on because its a flavourless beer to begin with. Nothing against corona lovers but it lacking in flavour beer is purely fact. Just make sure its cold as possible and the carbonation will be far less noticeable.

 

[citizensnips]

if there's one time I would drink corona its when its a belting hot day somewhere exotic and someone hands me an icy cold one, and I mean icy. When I drink it I enjoy it for what it is, not as a beer but as a refreshing beverage

 

[Not For Horses]

not as a beer but as a refreshing beverage

You might like San Pellegrino too. It's exotic, refreshing and tastes great with a slice of lemon. 2.5 volumes of co2

 

[Dunno238]

Hi Guys,
I have been reading through these forums for about 2 weeks now and am about to dive into a homebrew myself.

This is what i'm planning to do and was just hoping i could get some feedback before i dive in.
I have a STC1000 arriving this week and will be hooking it up to a chest freezer on the weekend.

Ok as this is my first brew i need to keep it simple and the WAF (wife acceptance factor) of the finished product needs to be high. Hence the Corona like first brew.

Coopers Creveza
BE2 1kg (50% Dextrose, 25% Maltodextrin, 25% Light Dry Malt)
Saflager S-23 Yeast
23L Brew

The plan was......
Pitch yeast @ 20 degrees
Place in chest freezer and drop to 10 - 12 degrees
Wait till SG readings are stable.
Raise temp to 16-18 degrees for yeast clean up.
Then Cold Crash to 2 -4 degrees for a week.
Bottle using carbonation drops (will probably rack and bulk prime in future)
Store in a the cupboard for about 2 - 3 weeks or until carbonated
Then hopefully in the fridge down nice and cold to be ready for around new years.

I'm hoping it will be ready for new years but i don't mind if i have to wait longer as i have read the longer you leave it the better it is
Any problems anyone could see or extra things i should do?
Also would i be better using the CBE 2 or would i be better off getting a mix from the local HBS as i have to get the yeast from there anyway.

Thanks.

 

[yum beer]

I always used 1kg LDM and 250gm Dex. Comes out high 4% with bottling.
Your temps look to be good, but get some lager yeast, 34/70 works well, 1 pack will be sufficient.
I also found the Cerveza is better while a bit younger 4-6 weeks, so you should be good for new years.

 

[Dunno238]

I always used 1kg LDM and 250gm Dex. Comes out high 4% with bottling.
Your temps look to be good, but get some lager yeast, 34/70 works well, 1 pack will be sufficient.
I also found the Cerveza is better while a bit younger 4-6 weeks, so you should be good for new years.

Thanks for the info know i just have to find a decent HBS in south east queensland.

 

[yum beer]

Try sponsor above...'craftbrewer' is in Brisbane...somewhere....

 

[pixiescam]

Hi all. Just brewed this one last week and it's the first time I've attempted a home brew. Couple of queries.

I've had it at a fairly stable temperature in my garage for 7 days and the fermentation has definitely happened, but it seems to have slowed down to almost non existent now. I wouldn't be concerned, but it has currently only registered about a 1020 on the Hydrometer down from 1044 at brew time. Would you suggest I've done something wrong to end up with a weakfish brew or that it still has some fermentation yet to occur?

I tasted some flat today and it smells and tastes fine, just a tad weak.

Thanks peeps

 

[flano]

I have been All grain brewing for about 3 years now...mainly making big American pale ales.
Tried the cans years ago and failed miserably...recently met a dude who reckons he brewed this and it was great.
His missus backed him up.

So am going to have a crack at it . Then keg it and leave in the fridge ungassed until xmas. about 5 weeks.

I have the can of goop ( coopers cerveza )
1 kg dextrose
20 grams super alpha to dry hop it with.
us-05

I will be surprised if it is any good.
Hope it is. The wife will think I am a genius.

 

[fletcher]

i've only done this one once and it was wrecked on me while fermenting thanks to the person staying at my house while i was away on holidays. i've always wanted to give it a crack to see how it is.

 

[superstock]

I have been All grain brewing for about 3 years now...mainly making big American pale ales.
Tried the cans years ago and failed miserably...recently met a dude who reckons he brewed this and it was great.
His missus backed him up.

So am going to have a crack at it . Then keg it and leave in the fridge ungassed until xmas. about 5 weeks.

I have the can of goop ( coopers cerveza )
1 kg dextrose
20 grams super alpha to dry hop it with.
us-05

I will be surprised if it is any good.
Hope it is. The wife will think I am a genius.

Did a Coopers Cerveza for my son a couple of months ago. Straight as per the instructions, BE2 and nothing else. Pitched the kit yeast @24' and put it in the coolgardie safe in the breezeway @ 18/20'. OG 1040 FG1010. Bottled after 10 days.2 carb drops per 740ml pet. Crated and kept in the breezeway covered by double black garbage bin liners for 2 weeks @ ambient, then into the w/shop fridge @ 10'.
First taste, 4weeks after bottling-- bit thin for me, not much head & needs to be served really cold.
4 weeks later, definately improved, better head & retention. The boys loved it. One comment that was made, is you can drink a half a bottle, put the cap back on and it will stay carbed in the fridge & drinkable 48hrs on.
Now I'm being asked what a Morgans Cortes Cerveza would be like. My reply was, you buy the kit.

 

[Bax]

May be worth looking at my caribbean siesta thread if you guys want something a little different. Was a coopers recipe, cerveza extract with 2x 500g DME's. 10 minute boil with 12g of Calypso hops, and the other 12 gets dropped in for dry hopping.

Came down to about 1006 if I remember correctly, still a bit thin. But it's a really pleasant hot day beer with a fairly nice aroma.

 

[GeoffN]

Just put one of these down. Kit, 1kg LDME with kit yeast. Currently sitting at 24 °C as I do not have a working fridge to brew in. Using the non working fridge as an esky.

I would like to dry hop and would like a recommendation. I have Amarillo, cascade and Fuggles in the freezer at the moment. I'm planning a small dry hop addition to add a little aroma to counter the potential yeasty flavour from the somewhat higher fermentation temperature. I don't know much about hops so please tell me which of those three would be the most suitable. From my reading I'm tending toward a 12 g addition of cascade after the initial fermentation stops.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

 

[burrster]

I can definitely recommend dry hop with 25g of cascade. I did it and the results went down well with me, and a good handful of my mate's.

 

[GeoffN]

Thank you burrster for the recommendation. I ended up going with 15g of cascade as I was a little concerned with over doing it for a very low flavour beer. I'm hoping that my wife will enjoy this one, she is NOT a beer drinker but something light and malty she may do.

She tasted my LC pale ale tonight and said she enjoy the hop flavour but not the bitterness. I could possibly have done the full 25g.

Will see how it ends up. I hope I remember to report back.

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