Continuing Rant Thread - Get it Off Ya Chest here

[Brewnicorn]

Its pretty straightforward actually. Or at least it use to be. Hermaphrodites earn a pass.

I know you don’t have to accept that it’s more complicated than that, but all signs point to yes.

 

[wynnum1]

You know you're a dedicated homebrewer when you read PC as Pro-culture instead of political correctness

PC Pissed "see you next tuesday."

 

[spog]

in a local cafe yesterday morning I saw on the counter a basket containing, as the sign stated Gingerbread Persons. FFS. I’m well and truly over all this PC *****, I got a sideways glance when I muttered “ fuckme what ********”.

 

[wynnum1]

Man accused of headbutting Tony Abbott appears in court they are charging him with Astro Labe, 38 was charged with causing harm to a Commonwealth public official and faces a maximum ten-year jail term if convicted.
Did not know that he was a Commonwealth public official thought he was Tony Abbott MP, Member for Warringah could this be another George Brandis stuff up.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

in a local cafe yesterday morning I saw on the counter a basket containing, as the sign stated Gingerbread Persons. FFS. I’m well and truly over all this PC *****, I got a sideways glance when I muttered “ fuckme what ********”.

It just goes to prove that being an advocate of political correctness is a self appointed position with no qualifications needed, just the fact that the baker referred a biscuit to be a person surely shows that he, she, or whatever should be in an institution for the "ill at ease"

 

[manticle]

Apprentice should have made some little gingerbread cock and ball sets.

 

[manticle]

Run, run as fast as you can....
Can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread intersex

 

[JDW81]

Apprentice should have made some little gingerbread cock and ball sets.

My grandmother use to do this when she made gingerbread persons. She piped icing ****s on the ladies, and a little todger for the chaps. My five year old self thought it was hilarious.

 

[JDW81]

It just goes to prove that being an advocate of political correctness is a self appointed position with no qualifications needed

Like most so-called advocates really. Most PC/Free speech/for/against same sex marriage/etc advocates are self-appointed, with no qualifications to speak of. Give them a soap box/social media platform/radio/television show and watch them wail to the masses.

 

[spog]

My grandmother use to do this when she made gingerbread persons. She piped icing ****s on the ladies, and a little todger for the chaps. My five year old self thought it was hilarious.

He he, do that these days and your shop would be firebombed and you’d be hung down and quartered by some half sucked off fountain of knowledge who couldn’t find its arse in dark.

 

[spog]

He he, do that these days and your shop would be firebombed and you’d be hung down and quartered by some half sucked off fountain of knowledge who couldn’t find its arse in dark.

Drawn, not down.

 

[goomboogo]

My grandmother use to do this when she made gingerbread persons. She piped icing ****s on the ladies, and a little todger for the chaps. My five year old self thought it was hilarious.

I'm a lot older than five and would still find that funny.

 

[Dave70]

in a local cafe yesterday morning I saw on the counter a basket containing, as the sign stated Gingerbread Persons. FFS. I’m well and truly over all this PC *****, I got a sideways glance when I muttered “ fuckme what ********”.

I guess you cant blame bakeries for being on high alert in light of recent events. Who knows what hypersensitive litigious minority group you may tick off with your baked goods.

https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I wonder if gay gingerbread folk can get married

 

[earle]

He he, do that these days and your shop would be firebombed and you’d be hung down and quartered by some half sucked off fountain of knowledge who couldn’t find its arse in dark.

I think you'll find that it was the gongerbread man that was hung.

 

[spog]

I guess you cant blame bakeries for being on high alert in light of recent events. Who knows what hypersensitive litigious minority group you may tick off with your baked goods.

https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/

FFS.

 

[Danscraftbeer]

NBN. oh,,,,,,,,,my,,,,,,,,,,,,god.......
So its going to get worse, shittier, slower, failings, non profitable, massive losses, unless we all get slugged much higher prices for something that will never work properly? Is that it? So Libs scrap the labor plan to do it (the Liberal party way) substandard for cheaper then its all going to cost more than the original Labour plan only its a failing piece of ****. Then blame it all on the Labor party.

Can Australian politics actually get worse? I hate to think that's the progressive direction but seems that way.
Train wreck? with a snow ball effect.

 

[mtb]

Large IT projects in government literally never go well. The DHS robodebt debacle is another very public-facing one but having worked within govt IT for a decade, I've seen all manner of f*ckups. There is something fundamentally wrong with the system and I reckon it's a lack of accountability - such is the way when you're spending public money instead of your own. It's for that reason I'm a huge fan of outsourcing.. if NBN were delivered this poorly by a private organisation you'd bet they'd actually be penalised for it.

 

[Dave70]

Can Australian politics actually get worse?

What we need is a positive leader, a leader with at least 100 positive policies, and who puts people first. People like me!

 

[RobW]

Large IT projects in government literally never go well. The DHS robodebt debacle is another very public-facing one but having worked within govt IT for a decade, I've seen all manner of f*ckups. There is something fundamentally wrong with the system and I reckon it's a lack of accountability - such is the way when you're spending public money instead of your own. It's for that reason I'm a huge fan of outsourcing.. if NBN were delivered this poorly by a private organisation you'd bet they'd actually be penalised for it.

Not sure outsourcing will solve the problem by itself.
The Victorian Myki was outsourced and what happened?
"OOOh! We've run out of money. Can we please have another couple of hundred million$$"
What's needed is properly specced contracts with less wriggle room and milestones with real funding implications.
No delivery = no money, or a significant penalty.
And no bonuses for dragging a project full of shortcuts and compromises over the line on time.

 

[mtb]

Not sure outsourcing will solve the problem by itself.
The Victorian Myki was outsourced and what happened?
"OOOh! We've run out of money. Can we please have another couple of hundred million$$"
What's needed is properly specced contracts with less wriggle room and milestones with real funding implications.
No delivery = no money, or a significant penalty.
And no bonuses for dragging a project full of shortcuts and compromises over the line on time.

Outsourcing is a part of the solution - not all of it. I agree with you completely, properly specced contracts are crucial and they are often lacking in specificity - which is a fault of both sides really.
Outsourcing simply allows for tangible penalty. Internally run govt projects can fail spectacularly and all it does is allow political parties to sledge one another about it, whereas a commercial entity can lose millions if it fails to deliver.

 

[gap]

What we need is a positive leader, a leader with at least 100 positive policies, and who puts people first. People like me!

This should be in the continuing jokes thread.

 

[goomboogo]

I'm aboard Bill's big bus of positivity. I'm positive he cares about me the same as all the other people he puts first. Politicians are like everyone else in that they put themselves first. The difference is the enormous gap between them and those they put second.

 

[manticle]

Who knows what hypersensitive religious minority weirdo you may tick off?

I wouldn't bake a paedophile cake either

 

[Brewnicorn]

I guess you cant blame bakeries for being on high alert in light of recent events. Who knows what hypersensitive litigious minority group you may tick off with your baked goods.

https://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/

I worked at a law firm many years ago and the yarn used to be the Americans were only following the English lead, that the poms were far more litigious.
Given the yank saturation in Australian culture I wonder if we’d ever see that here? More of that here*
That said we elect the lawmakers. I say if the only reason the bakery didn’t sell those folks a cake is cos they’re gay then **** the bakery. I mean seriously?
People who dress differently, people of different religion, different colour... who else is fair game?

 

[Stouter]

Outsourcing is a part of the solution - not all of it. I agree with you completely, properly specced contracts are crucial and they are often lacking in specificity - which is a fault of both sides really.
Outsourcing simply allows for tangible penalty. Internally run govt projects can fail spectacularly and all it does is allow political parties to sledge one another about it, whereas a commercial entity can lose millions if it fails to deliver.

All sorts of problems like that over this end. Like a Children's Hospital which was promised to be opened in 2015.

"The former Barnett government last year confirmed it was paying $500,000 a month to contractor Capella Parking for the bays that are sitting empty at the yet-to-be-opened facility.

At the time, former health minister John Day explained the cost was unavoidable and flowed from a contract the government signed with the parking operator about four years ago.

But during a budget estimates hearing at the WA Parliament this week it was revealed that figure was actually closer to $700,000 per month."

That's just the bloody car park for the place! The place as it sits unopened has an estimated $6m/month cost.

Last I've heard the government was looking getting some $$'s back through the courts.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-...spital-legal-stoush-with-john-holland/8804440

Still, no matter how much they get back, and how much the lawyers make out of it, hasn't helped many sick kids over the last few years it was supposed to be operational.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

The problem with NBN is that the top tiers are...wait for it......wait for it....not IT guys.....but....LAWYERS

Some of the contracts NBN have are 1000's of pages.

Here is an example of how ******* stupid it is

Take the NBN satellite. There are 3 players. NBN, Viasat ( the builder ) & Erricsson ( Network managers for the sat ) all because NBN allowed suck a stupid contract setup

Now, NBN are not allowed to talk to Viasat about issues, they first must talk to Erricsson, who then determin if they need to talk to Viasat. If they dont feel a need, they dont. If via sat want to talk to NBN...have to go thru Ericsson

Can anyone see any issue here ?

 

[homebrewnewb]

yep its a microcosm for my issue, three players - three song books, three different outcomes, none of them good; no connection for me, no income for the rsp, and a black eye for the nbn...

@mtb re outsourcing, what do you mean IBM is banned from bidding for State government contracts? Mind you these guys internationally have been running a loss for the last 22 quarters i think

not sure if outsourcing is a winner either - there is a better way that is for sure.

 

[mtb]

yep its a microcosm for my issue, three players - three song books, three different outcomes, none of them good; no connection for me, no income for the rsp, and a black eye for the nbn...

@mtb re outsourcing, what do you mean IBM is banned from bidding for State government contracts? Mind you these guys internationally have been running a loss for the last 22 quarters i think

not sure if outsourcing is a winner either - there is a better way that is for sure.

Consider if IBM were replaced with an internally run government project team on that particular debacle. They'd keep their jobs and all.

 

[Dave70]

I worked at a law firm many years ago and the yarn used to be the Americans were only following the English lead, that the poms were far more litigious.
Given the yank saturation in Australian culture I wonder if we’d ever see that here? More of that here*
That said we elect the lawmakers. I say if the only reason the bakery didn’t sell those folks a cake is cos they’re gay then **** the bakery. I mean seriously?
People who dress differently, people of different religion, different colour... who else is fair game?

It wasn't. It conflicted with the owners religious beliefs, and they apparently provided numerous alternative businesses who would be willing to accommodate. To my libertarian brain, this was just bloody minded virtue signaling by a gay couple intent on bullying and punishing a small business publicly - admittedly, this is at odds with Colorado's actual public accommodations law. In my opinion, if you want to open a cake shop that only bakes wedding cakes for gay couples, you should be free to do so, ultimately the success or failure of your business will reflect that decision.

The actual case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission