Can extract be Craft Beer ?

[Liam_snorkel]

This may not be a fair comparison, But would an artisan bakery still be artisan if they bought their dough pre-made and just rolled it in some grains/seeds and baked it?

 

[manticle]

Depends on whether your chosen definition of artisan excludes the idea of pre-made dough. I would guess that it does. Craft on the other hand can refer to someone making a doll with a stuffed sock and two buttons for eyes to sell at the local fête.

 

[tanukibrewer]

No

 

[bum]

some other entity's craft, not your own.

It's not craft because it is craft? :blink:

 

[bradsbrew]

Of course it can be craft beer. It would depend on the method and scale it is brewed at. Next it will be if you are not growing and malting your own grain it cant be called craft. Only place it should have to be mentioned on the label is the ingredients, that's what I look at.

Cheers

edit. I voted yes and maybe

 

[Bada Bing Brewery]

I have not posted for awhile (thanks for the where's BBB thread?? ******s) Anyway .. short answer is yes if you are an extract brewer and no if you are all grain.
University assignment Nev ??? Looks more like a NAPLAN question .... Year 9 of course.
Cheers
BBB

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

I have not posted for awhile (thanks for the where's BBB thread?? ******s) Anyway .. short answer is yes if you are an extract brewer and no if you are all grain.
University assignment Nev ??? Looks more like a NAPLAN question .... Year 9 of course.
Cheers
BBB

And how did you do in your NAPLAN BBB?

 

[DU99]

my question whats beer made of MALT.we all make beer by using malt in some form,some extract brewers have won awards.so has all grain brewers.craft is what we all do,we use available materials to make "something",my partner makes items of clothing and it's a craft..so for me extract should be a "YES"

 

[Black Devil Dog]

Using a furniture analogy.

If someone goes to Ikea and buys a kit, takes it home and assembles it, should that person claim to have crafted the piece, in the same way a person who buys some raw materials and cuts and shapes the timber to craft a piece, would be able to claim? I don't think so.

 

[wbosher]

Artist paints a beautiful picture with pre-made paints...art? I think so.

 

[Bada Bing Brewery]

And how did you do in your NAPLAN BBB?

I thought year three was tough. This year in year five it was very difficult. They had a question with fractions and then I knew I was ******.
BBB

 

[warra48]

Painting by numbers ain't art.

Making beer with someone else's dehydrated wort ain't craft brewing.

Flat pack furniture assembly ain't great furniture making.

It ain't rocket science fellas and gals to come up with the right answer.

 

[manticle]

Why isn't is art? Why is the term 'art' synonymous with 'quality' or 'worthwhile' in so many people's minds?

There is such a thing as bad art Warra. A chair can be well made or badly made - it's still a chair. Art is no different.

It comes down to definition of terms. Define art and define craft (in relation to beer anyway).

 

[jlm]

Using a furniture analogy.

If someone goes to Ikea and buys a kit, takes it home and assembles it, should that person claim to have crafted the piece, in the same way a person who buys some raw materials and cuts and shapes the timber to craft a piece, would be able to claim? I don't think so.

So what's the difference between someone brewing an extract version of a recipe from brewing classic styles and another brewing the AG version? Both followed the instructions in the way one would with a piece of Ikea furniture. Neither "crafted" that beer in the way you've put forward in your analogy.

 

[philmud]

I think the ikea analogy kind of ignores the level of control extract brewers can have over their beer. They choose what hops to use, when to use them, what SG etc. a fresh wort kit is closer to flat pack furniture. That said, the things they don't control (but could do, relatively easily - unlike growing/harvesting/malting grains) mean they are forgoing a large determining factor in their beer. If extracts came in the enormous variety grains do, maybe I'd have voted maybe, but as it is I can't see it. Particularly given that the OP's definition seems to apply more to commercial breweries.

 

[Black Devil Dog]

So what's the difference between someone brewing an extract version of a recipe from brewing classic styles and another brewing the AG version? Both followed the instructions in the way one would with a piece of Ikea furniture. Neither "crafted" that beer in the way you've put forward in your analogy.

I beg to differ. Someone has taken the raw materials and crafted a beer from it, the other person has purchased some prefabricated ingredients and sure they have made a beer, but in my opinion they haven't crafted a beer.

 

[djar007]

I guess the same is true of buying wort kits too Black Devil Dog. I make bread , but I dont grow the grain. Craft has varying levels of involvement. I know a few textile crafters. They simply blend materials to create a jumper or quilt. I never ask them if they span the wool or dyed it. I understand the sentiment and passion behind what we do. But the guys using extract put a lot of effort and creativity into crafting a beer . Not calling you out by the way. You make valid points. Just weighing into the discussion.

 

[manticle]

Has someone not built a house if they buy the wood pre-cut?

 

[Nick JD]

Art = science + emotion

 

[philmud]

Has someone not built a house if they buy the wood pre-cut?

Built, yes, crafted - probably not.