Brew Rig Options

[FarsideOfCrazy]

Jonathon I hope you don't mind me asking but are you married? Because if tried doing something like that the wife would be out the door quick smart! It's hard enough getting on here and trying to read a few threads!

And OMG I'm so wanting a setup like that!!!! :super: Only about half the size though.

Keep those pics coming.

 

[Jono_w]

Jonathon I hope you don't mind me asking but are you married? Because if tried doing something like that the wife would be out the door quick smart! It's hard enough getting on here and trying to read a few threads!

And OMG I'm so wanting a setup like that!!!! :super: Only about half the size though.

Keep those pics coming.

Hey Crazy,
Nope not married, she will be an understanding wife or none at all!

 

[chappo1970]

Chappo, I'm on it mate ill get a few more photo's up soon to feed your fetish.

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YOU PROMISED...
Please don't make me beg.... cause I will?

 

[chappo1970]

Chappo, I'm on it mate ill get a few more photo's up soon to feed your fetish.

!BUMP!

Been a month Jonno!

Soon we start breaking legs if you don't give us what we want! Oh yeah we know were you live! Just give us the beer porn and this alllll goes away.

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YOU PROMISED!!!!

NOTE: For those that haven't seen Jonno's magnificent work start at page one and walk all the thru to here. Bet ya $10 bucks you go weak at the knees.

 

[Jono_w]

not my legs! i need them to walk to the fridge.. ill have some pics of the control panel tomorrow night, and ill try find some other interesting bits for you.

 

[technocat]

not my legs! i need them to walk to the fridge.. ill have some pics of the control panel tomorrow night, and ill try find some other interesting bits for you.

Hi jonothan

I am in the proccess of putting a control panel together and have been looking at solenoid valves to operate off timers and liquid sensors. Have been looking at irrigation valves with plastic bodys.......any thoughts on these?

Cheers

 

[Jono_w]

Hi jonothan

I am in the proccess of putting a control panel together and have been looking at solenoid valves to operate off timers and liquid sensors. Have been looking at irrigation valves with plastic bodys.......any thoughts on these?

Cheers

Hey Beernut,

I have used two types of valves before, the first system used electric/mechanical hydronic valves designed for HVAC they are made of brass and can handle up to 90deg c the new rig uses air actuated stainless ball valves. I think you may have trouble with the plastic and heat also they have crevices that grain and debris will get stuck in. Might be worth getting some manufacturers data.. I cant see a problem using them to fill HLT or to turn on cooling water but for wort i dont think they would be suitable..

Cheers.

edit: nnn key playig up

 

[technocat]

Yes I was thinking cold water only and View attachment 24875
have been looking at these for hot liquid,

 

[Jono_w]

Yes I was thinking cold water only and View attachment 24875
have been looking at these for hot liquid,

The only problem i can see with those solenoid is that they are interally piloted, problems with them is debris blocks the pilot and they need at least 2psi to operate. A plunger style valve is better suited needs no pressure to operate and has no diaphragm.
cheers.

 

[technocat]

Hi Jonothan. Ok I am a bit out of my depth here as a solenoid valve is one piece of equipment I have never had on my bench. Electronics I know well as I trained in this area but the internal workings of a solenoid valve are all new ground. With that said not sure what internal piloting means so if you would, maybe you could indulge me in where I could obtain a suitable valve I would need for hot wort application with the field coil operating at 24VAC. As you can see I am getting bogged down in this area and would appreciate a little advice.

 

[Jono_w]

Hi Jonothan. Ok I am a bit out of my depth here as a solenoid valve is one piece of equipment I have never had on my bench. Electronics I know well as I trained in this area but the internal workings of a solenoid valve are all new ground. With that said not sure what internal piloting means so if you would, maybe you could indulge me in where I could obtain a suitable valve I would need for hot wort application with the field coil operating at 24VAC. As you can see I am getting bogged down in this area and would appreciate a little advice.

I have stripped down two different styles of solenoid valves for you. The Pilot style valve and a simple plunger style. You ca see that the plunger has less parts and no small orifices to get blocked. I hope this helps..
Cheers.

 

[Jono_w]

Hey guys as promised here is a picture of the control gear mounted up, slowly getting there..



cheers.

 

[chappo1970]

Ahhh that's better! But where's the rest?

 

[technocat]

Thanks Jonothan you went to a lot of trouble. Just got to find where I can source these. That panel looks like a high voltage setup.

Cheers

 

[Jono_w]

Thanks Jonothan you went to a lot of trouble. Just got to find where I can source these. That panel looks like a high voltage setup.

Cheers

Got your fix Chappo?? ahaha more to come.

No trouble at all Beernut, I know if someone had showed me things like this would have saved alot of time. Ebay is always good for bits like that even ebay America doesn't take too long..

 

[chappo1970]

Hey Jonno I hope your typing with one hand and have a welder WELDING in the other? <_<

Don't force me to start the chant again because I will! :lol:

 

[Supra-Jim]

Hey Jonno I hope your typing with one hand and have a welder WELDING in the other? <_<

Yeah and uh Chappo, i hope you've moved your computer out to the garage and are typing your posts inbetween assembling your brew rig!!! And then testing your brew rig!!! You've got a little work ahead of old boy!

:icon_cheers: SJ

 

[chappo1970]

Dah dah da da!!! Hey, what, huh? Errr... yep I'm right on to it SJ. Now where did I leave those destructions? Damn alzheimers!
SO anyway...
What was I saying again?
Oh yes that's right BEERS!

 

[roger mellie]

Hey guys as promised here is a picture of the control gear mounted up, slowly getting there..

View attachment 24921

cheers.

Heheh - Impressive

you have to call this the 'maximum overkill' control system. SLC500 perfectly capable of controlling a medium size factory.

Whats your budget Jonathon? What HMI are you going to bolt on to this?

Very impressive.

RM

 

[Jono_w]

Heheh - Impressive

you have to call this the 'maximum overkill' control system. SLC500 perfectly capable of controlling a medium size factory.

Whats your budget Jonathon? What HMI are you going to bolt on to this?

Very impressive.

RM

Overkill! Never.
All of the control gear was purchased on eBay, I bought the stainless cabinet full of stuff and 4 linear robots that were decommissioned from a major bakery.
The plc from memory was $350 plus the rtd temp probe module was $100 from the states. These plc's are very cheap second hand.

I would say the budget so far would be close to $3000 (not including buy a tig welder)




So Chappo, Sounds like you need to do a less conversation and a little more action!!

cheers..