Brew Rig Options

[Jono_w]

Roger,

The HMI (humanmachine interface ) is a custom interface I have written in visual basic, trying to source a cheap touch screen as we speak. Just lost one on eBay

 

[Crazy]

Overkill! Never.
All of the control gear was purchased on eBay, I bought the stainless cabinet full of stuff and 4 linear robots that were decommissioned from a major bakery.
The plc from memory was $350 plus the rtd temp probe module was $100 from the states. These plc's are very cheap second hand.

I would say the budget so far would be close to $3000 (not including buy a tig welder)




So Chappo, Sounds like you need to do a less conversation and a little more action!!

cheers..

Jonathon

I have just commisioned the fourth generation of my brewery and am also using an SLC PLC (including panelview 1400). I however havn't managed to get my hands on the rtd card and have to use temp controllers as the interface to the plc. I have even looked at rtd to 4-20ma signal conditioners but even these are expencive. Did you just buy RTD the card from ebay or have you found a better source?

Regards Derrick

 

[Jono_w]

Jonathon

I have just commisioned the fourth generation of my brewery and am also using an SLC PLC (including panelview 1400). I however havn't managed to get my hands on the rtd card and have to use temp controllers as the interface to the plc. I have even looked at rtd to 4-20ma signal conditioners but even these are expencive. Did you just buy RTD the card from ebay or have you found a better source?

Regards Derrick

Hi Derrick,
Sounds like a interesting project.
I cant recall the store I purchased the card from but it was on eBay. Fibreoz often have some slc500 gear
I should be able to find the recipt somwhere..I do recall there was only 1 available at the time. They do save alot of equipment and they do all the coverting on board. Very handy..

Here is one i just found, $400 bit more than i spent though.. eBay Item number: 300294857050
Link

Cheers..
Jonathon

 

[Crazy]

Hi Derrick,
Sounds like a interesting project.
I cant recall the store I purchased the card from but it was on eBay. Fibreoz often have some slc500 gear
I should be able to find the recipt somwhere..I do recall there was only 1 available at the time. They do save alot of equipment and they do all the coverting on board. Very handy..

Here is one i just found, $400 bit more than i spent though.. eBay Item number: 300294857050
Link

Cheers..
Jonathon

Yeh unlike you I am married with kids so my entire project is supplied by second hand gear and favours owed. I found a couple around the hundred and fifty mark plus postage. I have a spare three SLC racks complete with a range of cards so I might have to try to sell some of these to fund an RTD card.

Derrick

 

[Jono_w]

Yeh unlike you I am married with kids so my entire project is supplied by second hand gear and favours owed. I found a couple around the hundred and fifty mark plus postage. I have a spare three SLC racks complete with a range of cards so I might have to try to sell some of these to fund an RTD card.

Derrick

Really! You dont have a processor with ethernet do you?

 

[roger mellie]

Really! You dont have a processor with ethernet do you?

Heheh

You didnt buy the cheap 5/03 did you mate? You need the 5/05 processor.

And it would seem a shame to go and bolt on a cheap and nasty touch screen running a VB script - for a couple of grand you can pick up a 11" touch screen with Intouch on it - trends/historical data all built in. Go the whole hog.

Im just jealous - I configure control systems for hydrochem plants all day every day - and my brewery is 100% manual.

Hell - I dont even own a March Pump. :unsure:

RM

 

[Jono_w]

Heheh

You didnt buy the cheap 5/03 did you mate? You need the 5/05 processor.

And it would seem a shame to go and bolt on a cheap and nasty touch screen running a VB script - for a couple of grand you can pick up a 11" touch screen with Intouch on it - trends/historical data all built in. Go the whole hog.

Im just jealous - I configure control systems for hydrochem plants all day every day - and my brewery is 100% manual.

Hell - I dont even own a March Pump. :unsure:

RM

Yeah 5/03, it only has one serial port and I need serial for both HMI and the variable speed drive. Ill get around it some how...Or find a 5/05. Couple of grand!! I can get a touch screen for $250 and a little eeepc running vb. Sweet. Although an industrial touchscreen would be nice...

 

[Crazy]

Yeah 5/03, it only has one serial port and I need serial for both HMI and the variable speed drive. Ill get around it some how...Or find a 5/05. Couple of grand!! I can get a touch screen for $250 and a little eeepc running vb. Sweet. Although an industrial touchscreen would be nice...

I have two 504 and two 503 but no ethernet. All the processors have DH+ however which is also what the panelview runs on. You could always run the vf drive on analogue. Just out of curiosity what is the vf drive for?

 

[roger mellie]

Yeah 5/03, it only has one serial port and I need serial for both HMI and the variable speed drive. Ill get around it some how...Or find a 5/05. Couple of grand!! I can get a touch screen for $250 and a little eeepc running vb. Sweet. Although an industrial touchscreen would be nice...

DH+ is a highway system - you can have several nodes - have seen them with 20 odd PLC's and stuff hanging off the 485 net.

And derrick is right - a) what need is there for a VSD ? Variable flow? Try a valve? and B) you would be better off with a 4 - 20 output in any case.

I will stick to my Esky and infusion mash system for now I think.

Good luck with it.

RM

 

[devo]

my cats breath smells like cat food :huh:

 

[KHB]

my cats breath smells like cat food :huh:

+1

 

[Jono_w]

The VFD is for the Mash tun Mixer. I have DH+ but the cards are expensive for laptops so serial it is, and yeah analog out to drive.

Thanks for the heads up Devo...

 

[litre_o_cola]

my cats breath smells like cat food :huh:

Ralph???

All I can say is a big fat WOW....... That is the cleanest setup I have seen on here and I can tell you now I would die a happy man with that, looks like I will die miserable......

 

[Crazy]

The VFD is for the Mash tun Mixer. I have DH+ but the cards are expensive for laptops so serial it is, and yeah analog out to drive.

Thanks for the heads up Devo...

The panelview also has a serial RS232 for upload and download.

 

[Jono_w]

March Update..

Hello Brewers,

Cleaned up the control cabinet and mounted control gear, next move is to connect all the external devices to the cabinet and make the skid under the
whole brewery. I want put a partition in the right hand side of the cabinet with shelves for all of my brewing gear. Sorry about the crappy photo's my "shock proof" camera is not as shock proof as they claim..

cheers.

 

[chappo1970]

About bloody time Johnno you posted some beer porn up here for me mate. I was only thinking it was getting close to rousin you up for some more.

As usual :icon_drool2: Johnno has the best beer porn goin' on the net.

I'm gunna a buy me an aeroplane ticket and see that thing in the flesh one of these days. I reckon you have your calling son! Well done!

 

[Jono_w]

About bloody time Johnno you posted some beer porn up here for me mate. I was only thinking it was getting close to rousin you up for some more.

As usual :icon_drool2: Johnno has the best beer porn goin' on the net.

I'm gunna a buy me an aeroplane ticket and see that thing in the flesh one of these days. I reckon you have your calling son! Well done!

More than welcome mate, make sure you bring your scotch brites, plenty of polishing to be done!!

 

[matti]

mmmm Big red button :wub:

Nice work!

 

[chappo1970]

I think I would be tooo busy humping the boilers leg! :lol:

:blink: WTF?

 

[Jono_w]

mmmm Big red button :wub:

Nice work!

Brace yourself Matti!!

I think I would be tooo busy humping the boilers leg! :lol:

:blink: WTF?

hmm, as long as your wearing scothbrite pants!