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Also, talking about turn key, does the BM come with a chiller?
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Yes it does and the chiller does not need cleaning after
 
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Hop and Grain in Marrickville seems to be okay - at least their website is quite extensive.
Yeah, that’s one of my locals. The markup (vs direct from manufacturer) varies from not much to quite a lot.
They have GFs, but not sure if their prices are competitive.
Have you looked at BrewTools? Have heard good things about that unit...
 

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Also, talking about turn key, does the BM come with a chiller?

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Yes it does and the chiller does not need cleaning after
What do you mean? Is it an immersion chiller?
 
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Hi all - new to the forums so go easy on me!

I'm getting ready to get back into home brewing and really like the idea of an all in one system such a the Braumeister 20L Plus. My question is where is the best place to buy one? I am in the north of Sydney.

Some research always seems to lead back to Grain and Grape in Melbourne. Any other suggestions closer to home?
I was like you when I was looking around for my BM, I went further afield though, I bought mine direct from Germany, a 19% discount straight away, postage was 80 Euro. That was before the day any sales tax was added here.
Another one to look at is Home Brew West Republic of Ireland, 23% sales tax.
Luck of the draw if it gets through customs without attracting 10% sales tax.
As for comparing a BM with a Chinese model, BM wins hands down, stirring isn't necessary, it stirs itself every 15 minutes through the pump breaks, and a superior quality build.

If you go through Home Brew West tell Brian Tony wants his money. ;)
 

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I was like you when I was looking around for my BM, I went further afield though, I bought mine direct from Germany, a 19% discount straight away, postage was 80 Euro. That was before the day any sales tax was added here.
Another one to look at is Home Brew West Republic of Ireland, 23% sales tax.
Luck of the draw if it gets through customs without attracting 10% sales tax.
As for comparing a BM with a Chinese model, BM wins hands down, stirring isn't necessary, it stirs itself every 15 minutes through the pump breaks, and a superior quality build.

If you go through Home Brew West tell Brian Tony wants his money. ;)
appreciate the insights. I think you were fortunate to have purchased before the government started apply GST / import taxes. I ran the numbers and it comes out just about the same...
 

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I learned something new. That's very clever indeed.
The cooling skin does work well when the pump is on, however in summer the hotter temperatures does mean it takes twice as long using tap water (good thing 'summer' only lasts 4 weeks here!) Not as fast as other chilling means but good for simplicity + cleaning.
 

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The cooling skin does work well when the pump is on, however in summer the hotter temperatures does mean it takes twice as long using tap water (good thing 'summer' only lasts 4 weeks here!) Not as fast as other chilling means but good for simplicity + cleaning.
A pond pump in a bucket of ice water once you get below around 50c works wonders.

Recirc the pump through as you would a hose. One end on a 20mm barb with 13mm nipple, and tap fitting. The other just a length of hose back into the bucket. I go to the servo (australia) and get about 10kg of ice for $8 and recirc the ice cold water. Gets it real cold real fast, and saves water.
 

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I checked, read and asked alot and finally did what I should not but loved to....bought a BM plus 20 liters (YESSSS) from grain and grapes. Seems they are authorised seller in Australia. I was directed from main website to Grain and Grape one. Guten ones not available till November (at least) and Keglands one..... I just checked the youtube ones and the control system and calculators not for me!!
No money for the next 3 weeks! Hope it worth it.
 

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Congratulations, if nothing else you wont be disappointed by the quality, I love German stuff.
My wife drives a BMW, I've got a KIA, and a Robobrew, says it all really "sobs"
 

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Great work. It's gonna be a nice bit of kit for sure!
 

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Congratulations likewise. I love my BM 20+ with hood. Build quality will not leave you disappointed. Mine also came from GnG. Got about 25 brews under the belt now. The built in chiller is simple but not as quick as an immersion chiller. Run mine from a 25000L rainwater tank through the BM and back into the tank. As I now have s/s fermenters it doesn't matter if the wort goes in a bit on the warm side. I also wondered whether I should have gone with the 50L but no regrets. With a bit of extra effort and planning you are not limited to 19L brews. I have been able to do a double volume brew and get about 35 litres from the BM tap into the fermenter. GnG had a post somewhere about the right volumes for mash and sparge which definitely helped. I'm going to do a double gravity soon, probably a RIS, aiming for approx 20L into the fermenter.
 

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