BIAB Excessive Trub

[Bribie G]

I'll try that next time for my left overs out of the kettle.

It was either Dr. Smurto orThirsty Boy who strains their left overs through a kitchen towel to get wort for starters.


Hey: bonus:

 

[manticle]

I let mine settle overnight, decant and reboil for starter like bribie.
If there's surplus, I have a bitsa/mongrel fermenter I use for a bitsa/mongrel keg.

 

[stm]

As posted in an earlier thread, anyone doing BIAB and experiencing unacceptable loss to trub doesn't need to invest in extra time, work and equipment. It's all in the process.

This. Don't overcomplicate it. It's really simple to resist the urge to stir during mash and mashout, and to do a gentle bag-pull, and the results are very good.

 

[RdeVjun]

OT: Bugger me, I'm getting a swimming pool like Bribie's, if it has a $10 note in it at each boil end then that's a bonus, not to mention the hops debris containment.

 

[hdawson]

"I am compensating for the losses by adding extra water/grain/hops to get what i need. I was after a way i could limit this as it is extra cost but hey i brew hoppy beers so no matter what Its gonna be pricey. Its my hobby so money isn't everything."

Too right!

Hi all.
I have got used to the wasted wort involved in BIAB , as I decided long ago that grain is pretty cheap.
But it still goes against the grain (no pun) that around 3L gets dumped onto the garden.
You are never to old to learn, however, and the tip to use a laundry bag to retain the bulk of the hop detritus certainly is obvious/genius.
Cheers Bribie.g.
That's why I love this forum.

 

[hdawson]

Just re read this post.
Very interesting. What about guys who just pitch everything into the fermenter with gay abandon?
Then rack into a secondary or maybe not at all !
I'm sure we have all tasted these beers but maybe it was back in the 80's when our standards were not so high.
Just saying.......

 

[GABBA110360]

I'll try that next time for my left overs out of the kettle.

It was either Dr. Smurto orThirsty Boy who strains their left overs through a kitchen towel to get wort for starters.


Hey: bonus:

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i had a go at straining the dregs from yesterdays batch
it worked well as you can see

 

[DUANNE]

I poured all this into a jug half an hour ago, leaving the following in the urn. Note the ring of trub that sticks above the wort and actually gets marooned there during the boil as the wort level drops. In addition I do a final "foam up" of the wort and much of the break ends up attached to the lid of the urn and the sides, thus removing a further amount of trub.

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Contents of jug after 30 mins settling.

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Total loss to trub around 700ml - but on further settling I'm quite confident that I'll only lose 600. The clear wort will be reboiled, diluted and used for my starter for this brew - will crack out the stir plate later.

And here's the contents of the hop "swimming pool". Pretty well leached out.

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So, 500 - 700 ml trub loss, not two or three litres.

As posted in an earlier thread, anyone doing BIAB and experiencing unacceptable loss to trub doesn't need to invest in extra time, work and equipment. It's all in the process.

ive never even thought about recovering trub for a starter. i might give it a go on my next brew and see how it goes. even if its only half a litre thats still less dme ive gotta use

 

[Bribie G]

DME the fermentable of last resort :lol:

 

[fdsaasdf]

Very interesting. What about guys who just pitch everything into the fermenter with gay abandon?
Then rack into a secondary or maybe not at all !
I'm sure we have all tasted these beers but maybe it was back in the 80's when our standards were not so high.
Just saying.......

I know of award-winning beers made by BIAB no-chillers who tip everything from the kettle into the cube and then into the fermenter, with no secondary or finings.

Personally I make mostly hop-forward beers and don't care that much about avoiding trub, just cold crashing for at least a few days seems to produce clear beers.

 

[Matplat]

Just for comparison, this is last nights trub that I bottled for starters, out of my 1v / malt pipe, its a 2l juice bottle, so maybe 250ml of trub?

 

[lost at sea]

just to (hopefully) contribute something helpful to the slow hoist team, when looking for a decent pulley setup for my BIAB i was hoping to rig something with a mech advantage of 3 or 4, but the cost of doubles is pretty steep, so i had my one lightbulb moment for 2017 and found on fleabay a boat trailer winch for $30 delivered which i mounted to the wall of my garage (i brew in the same spot every time)
the winch is geared so you can hoist it one click at a time if you wish with barely an ounce of effort required. can also lower in reverse gear as well....

here it is in action defying laws of gravity in my garage for some reason...

 

[Bribie G]

Designed by God specifically for BIAB.

Could you post a link, and maybe also to the "pinned" thread guide re BIAB in electric urn?

 

[gezzanet]

Been trying the slow haul and no mash stirring but still maybe a bit too fast as I end up with about 4 l in the keggle after 25 l wort in fermenter.
No biggie as I let it settle in a 5 l jar and decant for starters

 

[lost at sea]

Designed by God specifically for BIAB.

Could you post a link, and maybe also to the "pinned" thread guide re BIAB in electric urn?

no probs, just gotta wait for baby to go the f*** to sleep ha

 

[lost at sea]

Link for the trailer/BIAB winch on ebay, no affil blah blah, $30 free delivery, works perfectly.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1200LBS-544KGS-2-Ways-Steel-Cable-Hand-Winch-Manual-Car-Boat-Trailer-Camper-/252120618577?hash=item3ab38f5651&_uhb=1

 

[fdsaasdf]

just to (hopefully) contribute something helpful to the slow hoist team, when looking for a decent pulley setup for my BIAB i was hoping to rig something with a mech advantage of 3 or 4, but the cost of doubles is pretty steep, so i had my one lightbulb moment for 2017 and found on fleabay a boat trailer winch for $30 delivered which i mounted to the wall of my garage (i brew in the same spot every time)
the winch is geared so you can hoist it one click at a time if you wish with barely an ounce of effort required. can also lower in reverse gear as well....

here it is in action defying laws of gravity in my garage for some reason...

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That looks great, I've just purchased the same hoist for my 56L malt pipe to be mounted on a pine stand over my brew bench.

Have you looped your cable over a bolt or hook? Or do you have a pulley directly above the bag?

 

[Moog]

you wasted money on that winch...... you could've just linked it up to you're garage door motor (joking)

 

[fdsaasdf]

you wasted money on that winch...... you could've just linked it up to you're garage door motor (joking)

I can just imagine the wife coming home early, opening the garage door and lifting my basket out before the mash is done!

 

[lost at sea]

That looks great, I've just purchased the same hoist for my 56L malt pipe to be mounted on a pine stand over my brew bench.

Have you looped your cable over a bolt or hook? Or do you have a pulley directly above the bag?

sorry for the late reply, been away camping, i just drilled and screwed a ringbolt i had lying around into the floor joist above, and then attached a spare bow shackle to that. too lazy to go buy an expensive open pulley, the wire is moving less than 1 meter so i figure no need for fancy pulley,

you wasted money on that winch...... you could've just linked it up to you're garage door motor (joking)

ha you sir, are a bloody genius!