Ale! What is it?

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It is a matter of opinion, some think that the original definition should be upheld.
 
good4whatAlesU said:
It is a matter of opinion, some think that the original definition should be upheld.
well good for you and good luck brewing with things that have now found to be more toxic to the human body than whats currently in use.
you aren't an engineer are you?
 
Anything to do with style is a matter of opinion. MC hammer parachute pants for example :)
There are many bittering agents that are not hops and non-toxic.
 
good4whatAlesU said:
Anything to do with style is a matter of opinion. MC hammer parachute pants for example :)
There are many bittering agents that are not hops and non-toxic.
You and TimT should talk :D
 
good4whatAlesU said:
It is a matter of opinion, some think that the original definition should be upheld.
For opinion to carry weight rather than be airy bluster, it needs something more than 'well that's what I think, so nah'.

You are correct in that the historical differentiation between ale and beer was hops vs other bittering herbs but it's not so relevant to current definitions. History is not stagnant.
It evolves.

MC hammer pants? Long bow drawn with no arrow.
 
Actually that's a "middle aged" definition. the two words come from different language roots and were imported into English with one of the many invasions of Britain.
Some time around Henry VIII the distinction between the older unhopped and the newer hopped beers was needed and a word with a Norse origin and one with a Latin root was picked for the job.
There was no original definition that had any real meaning, except when applied in retrospect.
Mark
 

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