2008 Hop Plantations

[Barramundi]

not sure yet mate its sprouted but stopped short of producing leaves of any great size , will get back to ya when it does

 

[raven19]

Big thanks to Boston, traded some HB for some POR as per following...



Initial POR hop plant

 

[raven19]

Then after a few (maybe 2 or 3) weeks...

 

[raven19]

And now today... it ran out of supporting stick, so a new string up to the top of the patio was added to let her grow up and up....

 

[redbeard]

Ive re-potted both my plants about 3 weeks ago & since then havent grown at all

 

[raven19]

Ive re-potted both my plants about 3 weeks ago & since then havent grown at all

I can comiserate in part, one plant of mine is going great (as per the pics), the other plant in similar pot is just sitting there not doing anything at all! Bring on some hotter weather to kick them off again from what I can gather from other posts herein...

All we can do is have another beer and wait!

 

[Doc]

sorry couldnt help myself, had to brag

I think you are peaking a bit early there Barls
Esp after the weird weather we have had this week.

Doc

 

[barls]

maybe not they are still green and growing in size, so i could be still good. if not ill just dry them and use them.
ive got a load of little one and the largest is about 3 inches now

 

[raven19]

and the largest is about 3 inches now

No mention of pending po*rn movies with that statement Barls

Impressive hops nonetheless...

 

[barls]

just remember its not the size its how you use it. as the guys from isb that were at my house a couple of weeks ago will tell you mine are out of control

 

[daemon]

Hops were growing strong until a few weeks ago, but they stopped growing and many of the existing leaves started to die off. They're well watered (the same with all my veggies / herbs, which are very happy) and the soil has plenty of organic matter.

Any thoughts on what it could be?

 

[jimi]

I hesitate to mention this...the rhizome may not come back if it rotted due to overwatering. It's a possibility. How is the drainage on the soil? well-drained or gluggy?

Hi Les,

Soil is damp but not gluggy. The shrivelling up of the hops did happen during a hot streak in the weather a few weeks back, no sign of the hops making a comeback yet. I'm no longer holding many hopes or hops

 

[HoppingMad]

Hops were growing strong until a few weeks ago, but they stopped growing and many of the existing leaves started to die off. They're well watered (the same with all my veggies / herbs, which are very happy) and the soil has plenty of organic matter.

Any thoughts on what it could be?

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Be interested on a diagnosis/thoughts on Daemon's issue. My Hersbrucker which was a late planting has had similar issues. The leaves look exactly the same on mine. Admittedly it's in a shady spot (and all 4 other plantings are looking good/healthy) so perhaps not enough sun? I have cut some tree branches back above my Hersbrucker now in the hope that my leaves don't shrivel away more like this one, and have added some dynamic lifter and additional topsoil. Not much has changed in the past 3 days, but hopefully I can reverse it.

Daemon is your planting under tree branches and shade like mine?

Hopper.

 

[daemon]

Daemon is your planting under tree branches and shade like mine?

Hopper.

It's up against the side fence of the yard, so it's only the morning sun that it doesn't get. This was the most convenient location for me and I expected slightly less growth but don't think that's the cause of the damage. The tip of the shoots that are "growing" as such are perfectly healthy, it's just the older foliage that seems to have problems.

 

[HoppingMad]

It's up against the side fence of the yard, so it's only the morning sun that it doesn't get. This was the most convenient location for me and I expected slightly less growth but don't think that's the cause of the damage. The tip of the shoots that are "growing" as such are perfectly healthy, it's just the older foliage that seems to have problems.

Really odd. I thought mine might have been some kind of pest. Sprayed some stuff on it but didn't do anything.

 

[the_fuzz]

i'm in the exact same situation with my cascade - grew like wild fire up to about 3m, but has now stalled and the leaves are looking like the ones above

 

[Steve]

i'm in the exact same situation with my cascade - grew like wild fire up to about 3m, but has now stalled and the leaves are looking like the ones above

so is my POR

 

[devo]

+1 tettnang :mellow:

 

[agraham]

+ Hallertau

 

[wyatt_girth]

My POR is looks very similar. Much like a lot of people in this thread, it was off to a great start but suddenly halted. Then some of the leaves went like the above. I originally thought it was the sudden change in weather as it was getting pretty damn hot around the time i noticed that it was under a little stress. Coincidence maybe? I have also considered that maybe they were being over-watered as my 3yo daughter was in charge of the watering (or so she thought) and was very keen to dump a few litres on it each arvo.

Since then I have pinced off the bad looking leaves, eased back on the water and the weather has cooled a little - just a few days ago I noticed a few more shoots poking their heads out through the soil so I am hopeful that this is an indication that the little fella is gonna have another go. I still don't know what the problem was/is so will hold off on the water a bit and consider a little shade once the heat returns (assuming that it will, though this weather is a bit crazy so who knows) even though all I have read recommends full sun.

See what happens.

 

[daemon]

Well at least I'm not the only one with the problem, that's something I guess!

Doing a bit of searching it seems it may be a Potassium deficiency. Here's one link with quick pictures: http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/min-def/hops.htm

I might have a look at what sort of supplement I can get and see if this makes a difference.

 

[Darren]

Hey guys,

Maybe someone imported some cascade from the US?

http://plant-disease.ippc.orst.edu/disease.cfm?RecordID=605

just a thought

cheers

Darren

 

[darrell.wallace]

Hi Guys,

it has probably been mentioned before on this topic, but i couldnt find anything. I know a lot og guys who have had stalled hops because of a cold snap in the weather. Think of this as a false spring/winter cycle. Hops wont flower (usually) in the first year, and normally only minimally in the second year so if you have new rizomes that were growing along nicely, had a cold snap and they stalled dont worry too much as they should take off again with warmer weather. you may even get some flowers in the first year.

Nird

 

[Frank]

Hops were growing strong until a few weeks ago, but they stopped growing and many of the existing leaves started to die off. They're well watered (the same with all my veggies / herbs, which are very happy) and the soil has plenty of organic matter.
Any thoughts on what it could be?
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This looks like Mite damage to me, not Virus or nutrient defficiency. Try spraying with an oil based product, same spray you use on tomatoes, roses or indoor plants. Make sure the label says control of mites, like this one. I was away from my hops for about 3 weeks and some have been completely defoliated. I have sprayed them and waiting for the response.

 

[devo]

mmmm well by the looks of it mine is quite possibly ApMV-infected. <_<

btw cheers for the info Darren.

 

[Sunshine_Brewer]

Maybe the leaves have done their job and are finishing up? If it is only the older leaves then dont worry! if it is all your leaves dont bother with chemical sprays. Use some liquid seasol as a foliar spray, this acts as a plant tonic, use it in combination with powerfeed as this has all required plant nutrients.

 

[Hargie]

...G'Day Daemon, if your location is Toowoomba then you're about 12-1500 Kms too far north to get much out of your hops...not enough daylight hours up here as i've discovered moving from Canberra...almost all our local hops are grown in Tassie ( and Vic)... and of course NZ hops do very well even further South...maybe your hops might be in need of more daylight hours than they can get...this is just a guess...good luck...

 

[QldKev]

I'm up in Bundy, getting a reasonable harvest every year. It will never be a commercial harvest as per down south, but heaps over a couple of plants.

Looking at the leaf pic I'm also going something like mites, or maybe over fertilising.

QldKev

 

[daemon]

This looks like Mite damage to me, not Virus or nutrient defficiency. Try spraying with an oil based product, same spray you use on tomatoes, roses or indoor plants. Make sure the label says control of mites, like this one. I was away from my hops for about 3 weeks and some have been completely defoliated. I have sprayed them and waiting for the response.

Cheers, I'll have a look at the underside of the leaves to check for mites.

Maybe the leaves have done their job and are finishing up? If it is only the older leaves then dont worry! if it is all your leaves dont bother with chemical sprays. Use some liquid seasol as a foliar spray, this acts as a plant tonic, use it in combination with powerfeed as this has all required plant nutrients.

Not really the leaves that are "done", it's certainly something not right with the plant. I gave it a dose of Seasol and Powerfeed on the weekend, I've put Seasol on twice before that (once when planted and about two months ago).

...G'Day Daemon, if your location is Toowoomba then you're about 12-1500 Kms too far north to get much out of your hops...not enough daylight hours up here as i've discovered moving from Canberra...almost all our local hops are grown in Tassie ( and Vic)... and of course NZ hops do very well even further South...maybe your hops might be in need of more daylight hours than they can get...this is just a guess...good luck...

I fully expect that my yields won't be as much as if I was in Tassie, however I haven't even got to the point where I have any yields yet I'm growing my own out of interest rather than to replace what I buy, if I get any usable hops I'll be happy. I know there are others in the area who are growing POR and Cascade with reasonable yields, certainly enough to warrant the effort.

I'm up in Bundy, getting a reasonable harvest every year. It will never be a commercial harvest as per down south, but heaps over a couple of plants.

Looking at the leaf pic I'm also going something like mites, or maybe over fertilising.

QldKev

I haven't really applied too much fertiliser yet, just the same as I apply for the veggies etc. Nothing too heavy, I use Seasol for planting and then every now and then and then mainly organic fertilisers (blood & bone etc). Just bought some Powerfeed on the weekend to try as I saw it was recommended.

 

[drsmurto]

Mites like the new growth so if your new leaves unfold and already look like they have been attacked its likely spider mites. Cant see them but you can sometimes see ultra fine webs if you get them at the right angle normally near the growing tips.

Have in the past used soap based sprays (chilli and garlic with a few drops of hand soap), white oil and even fly spray (and instant remedy but one that needs to be repeated).

I also have a massive number of earwigs and harlequin bugs in my garden so am keeping busy trapping them (earwig trap that is collecting 50-100 earwigs a day is rolled up newspaper smeared with grease from the bbq). the harlequin bugs are normally associated with fruit trees but they seem to like crawling on my hops......

All of my plants are doing very well apart from the Cluster which stopped completely after growing 3 feet. Tried spraying it with various concoctions, fertilising it, mulching etc and its still frozen in time. Looks the healthiest of the lot. Weird.