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I don't know how to work out efficiency so I would like someone to tell me.
Just put down an AG pilsener using 5 kgs of pilsener malt and 1 kilo of carapils. Total of 6kgs grain.
Total wort volume of 24 ltrs.
My starting gravity is 1.060
What is my efficiency?

Cheers
 
~77%

ofcourse it depends on brand of grains and potential
 
Hi grinder,
the amount of 24L is before boiling or after boiling?

if before boiling 63,6%
if after boiling 61,1%
 
81% on the figures provided. Assuming you allowed correction factor for SG if you measured the wort soon after the mash and still hot, and you use a potential grain extract factor of 36 for the pilsener malt and 34 for the carapils.

I base this on page 33 of Ray Daniels' Designing Great Beers.
 
Hi grinder,
the amount of 24L is before boiling or after boiling?

if before boiling 63,6%
if after boiling 61,1%
After boiling. That's pitching gravity.
The grain I used is JWM.
I now have 2 conflicting %'s, 77% & 61.1%
Which one is correct?
 
me....


and mel.

like I said allow my calc to adjust depending on grain potential.


/me waits for zwickel to explain why I'm wrong
 
You can get lost in this one

Check out this thread

You need to first define efficiency :blink:

For me the most apt measure is what you extracted from your grain (before trub loss etc).

Cheers
 
77% Eff. is correct using the grains you quoted and the hydrometer reading @16c corrected.

Get yourself a copy of BeerSmith, it makes all this so simple.

Cheers
Andrew
 
we calculate: efficiency= amount of extract (sugar) in Plato * density * amount of wort *0,96 / amount of grain
 
77% Eff. is correct using the grains you quoted and the hydrometer reading @16c corrected.

Get yourself a copy of BeerSmith, it makes all this so simple.

Cheers
Andrew
Ok 77% sound good, I'll go with that. I will also check out beersmith.
I also just wanted to make sure that my system is working OK. I think it is based on your responses. Thanks guys
 
we calculate: efficiency= amount of extract (sugar) in Plato * density * amount of wort *0,96 / amount of grain


This doesnt seem to take into account the fact some grains contain more sugar than others.
 
This doesnt seem to take into account the fact some grains contain more sugar than others.
Im taking the amount of sugar that Ive measured, so the reading depends on the grain.
 
once Ive posted already the way Im calculating the efficiency, Ill do again:

first we measure the Wort in litre, but we need it in kg.
approxymately we may calculate the density of wort as follows:

0 Mass % --> density = 1
1 Mass % --> density = 1.004
2 Mass % --> density = 1.008

we may calculate:

(1) Mass [kg] = Volume[l] * (1 + Mass% * 0,004) [kg/l]

but stop, this only if the wort is at 20C
if the wort is still boiling or very hot, we have to calculate a contraction-factor of 0,96
that means: (2) Volume [l, 20] = Volume [l, 100] * 0,96

Now we may reckon the weight of the wort:
(1)+(2)
(3) Mass [kg, 20] = amount of wort[l, 100] * 0,96 * (1 + Mass% * 0,004)

In this amount of wort is contained:
(4) Extrakt [kg] = Mass [kg, 20] * Extrakt-readings[%] / 100

or easier:
(5) Extrakt [kg] = amount of wort[l, 20] * 0,96 * (1 + Mass% * 0,004) * Extrakt-readings[%] / 100

now we can conclude:
(6) brewhouse-efficiency = Extrakt [kg] / amount of grain [kg] * 100 %

I have made an simple Excel-sheet, you may just put in your datas:

take any result-cell and put in this formula (for cold wort):
=((B4*0,004+1)*B4)*A4/C4

and for hot or boiling wort:
=((B4*0,004+1)*B4*0,96)*A4/C4

You may put in your datas in Cell A4, B4 and C4,
where the cell A4 is the amount of wort in litre
and the cell B4 is the reading of extract in %, for example your reading ist 1048, so you put in 12 (%)
and the cell C4 is the total amount of grain (kg)

the result will show you the brewhouse-efficiency in %

poooohh, hard work for me writing in english....
 
once Ive posted already the way Im calculating the efficiency, Ill do again:

first we measure the Wort in litre, but we need it in kg.
approxymately we may calculate the density of wort as follows:

0 Mass % --> density = 1
1 Mass % --> density = 1.004
2 Mass % --> density = 1.008

we may calculate:

(1) Mass [kg] = Volume[l] * (1 + Mass% * 0,004) [kg/l]

but stop, this only if the wort is at 20C
if the wort is still boiling or very hot, we have to calculate a contraction-factor of 0,96
that means: (2) Volume [l, 20] = Volume [l, 100] * 0,96

Now we may reckon the weight of the wort:
(1)+(2)
(3) Mass [kg, 20] = amount of wort[l, 100] * 0,96 * (1 + Mass% * 0,004)

In this amount of wort is contained:
(4) Extrakt [kg] = Mass [kg, 20] * Extrakt-readings[%] / 100

or easier:
(5) Extrakt [kg] = amount of wort[l, 20] * 0,96 * (1 + Mass% * 0,004) * Extrakt-readings[%] / 100

now we can conclude:
(6) brewhouse-efficiency = Extrakt [kg] / amount of grain [kg] * 100 %

I have made an simple Excel-sheet, you may just put in your datas:

take any result-cell and put in this formula (for cold wort):
=((B4*0,004+1)*B4)*A4/C4

and for hot or boiling wort:
=((B4*0,004+1)*B4*0,96)*A4/C4

You may put in your datas in Cell A4, B4 and C4,
where the cell A4 is the amount of wort in litre
and the cell B4 is the reading of extract in %, for example your reading ist 1048, so you put in 12 (%)
and the cell C4 is the total amount of grain (kg)

the result will show you the brewhouse-efficiency in %

poooohh, hard work for me writing in english....
Should have written in German and made it hard work for us ;) I got approx 78% efficience on a 1092 brew on the weekend so Im a happy brewer.Insulating the mash tun better did a treat (good).
Cheers Gryphon Brewing
 
once Ive posted already the way Im calculating the efficiency, Ill do again:

first we measure the Wort in litre, but we need it in kg.
approxymately we may calculate the density of wort as follows:

0 Mass % --> density = 1
1 Mass % --> density = 1.004
2 Mass % --> density = 1.008

we may calculate:

(1) Mass [kg] = Volume[l] * (1 + Mass% * 0,004) [kg/l]

but stop, this only if the wort is at 20C
if the wort is still boiling or very hot, we have to calculate a contraction-factor of 0,96
that means: (2) Volume [l, 20] = Volume [l, 100] * 0,96

Now we may reckon the weight of the wort:
(1)+(2)
(3) Mass [kg, 20] = amount of wort[l, 100] * 0,96 * (1 + Mass% * 0,004)

In this amount of wort is contained:
(4) Extrakt [kg] = Mass [kg, 20] * Extrakt-readings[%] / 100

or easier:
(5) Extrakt [kg] = amount of wort[l, 20] * 0,96 * (1 + Mass% * 0,004) * Extrakt-readings[%] / 100

now we can conclude:
(6) brewhouse-efficiency = Extrakt [kg] / amount of grain [kg] * 100 %

I have made an simple Excel-sheet, you may just put in your datas:

take any result-cell and put in this formula (for cold wort):
=((B4*0,004+1)*B4)*A4/C4

and for hot or boiling wort:
=((B4*0,004+1)*B4*0,96)*A4/C4

You may put in your datas in Cell A4, B4 and C4,
where the cell A4 is the amount of wort in litre
and the cell B4 is the reading of extract in %, for example your reading ist 1048, so you put in 12 (%)
and the cell C4 is the total amount of grain (kg)

the result will show you the brewhouse-efficiency in %

poooohh, hard work for me writing in english....
I think you got too much time on your hands mate
 
wow GB, 1092 :blink: did you add sugar?
what yeast youre going to use?
I guess youll need a Portwine yeast :)
Calculated the grain bill first to 1071 then added the raw sugar (1.75 kg) which bought it up to 1092.A little more than expected(target 1088).I have had the problem in the past of the lauter tun only being 62c so I think this has affected my efficiencies, (New insulation added).I have pitched Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale ) from my last stout.Brewed it yesterday and the ferment is going off.It has raised it self by 2c in under 24 hours.So Im looking at a 10% + ABV. Nice for December when the temp gets to 35c plus.Im going to call it "Luck of the Irish". Yeh lucky if you get up in the morning ;)
Gryphon Brewing
 
hello brewing mates,

I dont want to bother with that, just I found a website with beercalcs:

http://fabier.de/biercalcs.html

Sorry its in german language only, but if you go to to the column "Sudhausausbeute" you may type in your datas and get the result, just as Ive written.

Cheers :beer:
 
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