What Pressure Reg To Use With My Spiral Burner?

[1974Alby]

Ive read a lot of posts here advocating the beerbelly adjustable reg for the italian spiral burner (I think it is a medium pressure one from memory?)...just went to the local gas shop here and he was insistent that the burner was only rated for a 2.8kps bbq reg and that to go any higher was extremely dangerous...and wouldnt sell me a higher pressure reg!!

so, is it really that dangerous? Im sure it couldnt be otherwise so many of you learned colleagues wouldnt be using them...

Looking at the flame I get from the bbq reg, I dont think I would need much more than 2.8kpa..maybe 3.5-4.5 would be fine...is there a reg on the market that is adjustable from 0-10kpa? I reckon such a device would be prefect and possible safer than a higher pressure unit...but then again, I know jack sh!t about gas and stuff so thats why Im asking here.
Cheers

Al

 

[Hammo7]

Hey Albanian.
I have a spiral and a standard BBQ reg took an hour to get 35 liters to boil. I got one of THESE from China.
Have not used it yet, but borrowed one from a fellow brewer, and it it much better. Had to keep an eye out as I was over shooting temps while using it.
I also went to a camping shop, they sold me a medium adjustable reg, wasn't much better than the standard BBQ.

 

[1974Alby]

Cheers Hammo, Ill check it out...took me about 40 min to get 30L to strike temp (70C) and another 40 after mashing to get a boil...

 

[1974Alby]

what does an outlet pressure of 2.2kg translate to in kpa?

 

[Pennywise]

I use a Med pressure reg from Beerbelly and find it get my boils going well, fully adjustable from 0-207 kpa

 

[Maheel]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BOC-6000-LPG-Re...=item415efb2846

although + twice the price may be of higher quality and last a lot longer ?

i actually use a BBQ reg on my spiral and on a 25L BIAB (32 strike) it only takes about 30 to get it to the boil.
i use hot water system water to get to strike quick + 10 mins gas

but plan to buy the BOC one

 

[1974Alby]

so it seems everyone is quite happy using higher pressure on this style of burner...what are the safety issues that made this bloke refuse to sell me a reg rated higher than my existing 2.8kpa one????

 

[Batz]

I can help out with a BOC reg.

 

[hsb]

I have the Italian Spiral with Medium Reg, no problems experienced. I chucked the supplied manual - it was in Italian anyway - but that should have the numbers to get the facts re: the advice you received. I can't imagine BeerBelly were suggesting medium reg without good reason themselves. I don't see how your local gas guy could make an accurate determination visually on what the gas flow is, unless it is printed on the burner itself?

I just noticed BeerBelly themselves have updated theirs to a model that includes the regulator fitted:
http://www.beerbelly.com.au/burners.html

 

[stux]

Well, it appears to work fine (really well in fact) on a 0-207kpa regulator

 

[WarmBeer]

I batch sparge, and start my Italian spiral burner once my first runnings are going into the kettle.

By the time I start to drain my sparge, 10 minutes later, the first runnings have already come to the boil, and I have had to turn the gas right down.

The combination of Italian Spiral burner, and adjustable medium regulator is very efficient. Buy the adjustable regulator, you wont be sorry.

 

[Jarthy]

i also run spiral with the med adjustable reg from beerbelly... great bang for your buck, don't waste your time and money with low pressure BBQ ones or ebay stuff.

 

[1974Alby]

I assume you run them nearly closed off?? at 2.8kps it puts out an ok flame...Im sure it wouldnt need much more than 5kpa to be absolutely cranking...207kpa just sounds scary!!

 

[pimpsqueak]

Just what is kps in relation to kpa?

 

[1974Alby]

sorry, meant kpa...its right next to s on the keyboard

 

[Flewy]

I assume you run them nearly closed off?? at 2.8kps it puts out an ok flame...Im sure it wouldnt need much more than 5kpa to be absolutely cranking...207kpa just sounds scary!!

I have a spiral burner with a medium reg, and you're right, I run it nearly closed. That gives a great flame that is much better than a BBQ reg, but any more and I feel it's just wasting gas, flames going everywhere. It is fun to do though...

 

[DU99]

i just of these ordered this regulator ... pressure wise sounds ok.

 

[1974Alby]

adjustable from 0.5 - 4 bar...thats 50 - 400 kpa which is massive considering a bbq reg puts out 2.8kpa... I dont reckon that would work, just keep blowing itself out or you up maybe??


I reckon an ideal unit would be adjustable from 0 - 100mBar (ie 0.1bar, or 10kpa)..but I havent come across one

 

[1974Alby]

what about one of these ???

by my calcs that's about a 32% increase in pressure which should be a significant improvement, whilst still keeping overall pressures in the low safe range??? ie max pressure 3.7kpa rather than the out of control 207kpa...and heaps cheaper too!

 

[Diesel80]

For that price, you have nothing to lose.

Hell i might even get one and test on my BBQ for searing steaks.
Looks like a properly engineered / assembled unit too.

Cheers,
D80