Treatise Against Balance Of Flavours

[pk.sax]

Been wanting to say this all day.

Shut up Bum

 

[bum]

You had a problem with open bums all day? Not What I heard (Cocko does talk so!).

 

[pk.sax]

What do you call a blown up bum?


















Kaabum!

 

[WarmBeer]

Examples of analogy being taken slightly too far by nerds exist prior to this post in streams.

'Well, actually..............'

Don't worry, some of my best friends are nerds.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[kdaust]

Very much so but I'm not certain it is entirely his fault. They way people talk about balance is often more aligned OP's viewpoint than the more correct one you put forward.

I've lost count of the number of times I've read knowledgeable brewers (and often comp judges) here who discount entire styles as being "unbalanced". No, you just don't like or understand them.

Bum nailed it. It's people talking about balance as though there are specific ratios of elements that create a perfect beer. BU:GU ratios and the like.

I think using the word balance to describe accurately hitting a style is a misnomer too.



I'm off to work listening to the silence of two dogs canceling each other out after reversing the polarity of one earphone. Feel fr to tell me why this isn't working.

 

[manticle]

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Well actually...........

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

Examples of analogy being taken slightly too far by nerds exist prior to this post in streams.

'Well, actually..............'

Don't worry, some of my best friends are nerds.

There's lots of beer nerds here - and we get caught up on nerdy beery details. And, no, being a beer nerd is no more cool than being a computer nerd.

Actually, I'm noticing that there is a high proportion of traditional computer-nerd types that appear to brew. Must be something about brewing that tickles the same fancy as the more traditional nerdery.

I got our IT guy here into BIAB, and he loves it, we have what appears to be a high proportion of programmers, linux users and anti-apple peoples. After all, this forum has, I believe, spawned a couple of highly macroed spreadsheets, brew mate and there was a discussion about whether mono can replicate the .NET framework adequate in Linux (no, it doesn't), which became a 'do you want a career in coding?' discussion.

Now, let's see if someone breaks out their commodore64 to program a BASIC version of brewmate..... Old school.

This sobriety thing is harder than I imagined.

 

[chunckious]

This sobriety thing is harder than I imagined.

Bloody oath. Sends you loopy. I felt like Basil Faulty for 3 months.....ah the memories.

 

[Malted]

Holy ****! Cocko produces music studios!

Yeah I built some for my house but after a while the house gets full of them and then they just clutter it up. The missus was getting cranky about having to dust around them. Then I was just building them for the fun of it and giving them away. My relatives got sick of receiving music studios for Christmases and Birthdays and "Oh no, not another music studio" was becoming a far too often heard phrase. I am trying to reinvigorate the gifting of them and thus am currently working on a pocket sized music studio. I have made them all different colours but might try some glitter on the pocket music studio to give them a little pizzazz.

 

[evildrakey]

And I thought I was weird... I guess dressing up in tights and making medieval booze isnt that bad then

 

[Mike L'Itorus]

I make a serious post for once, and all you fekkers do is derail the thread.

Shame, shame, shame.

 

[Malted]

[quote name='Mike L'Itorus' post='928266' date='Jun 26 2012, 10:38 AM']I make a serious post for once, and all you fekkers do is derail the thread.

Shame, shame, shame.[/quote]

When you run around with your arse on fire, when you eventually sit down for a rest, the seat will catch fire

 

[Mike L'Itorus]

point taken, monkey man.

 

[Malted]

[quote name='Mike L'Itorus' post='928277' date='Jun 26 2012, 11:06 AM']point taken, monkey man.[/quote]

Yep it is all about swings and fat kids.

 

[punkin]

When you run around with your arse on fire, when you eventually sit down for a rest, the seat will catch fire

I'm accidently starting to like you :lol:

I was reading your pet store post in the wee hours this morning and had to stop halfway through the post to go and sit elsewhere fro fear of accidently embarrassing my self.

Missus must have thought something weird was happening in the ******* with all of a sudden unavoidable sniggers and giggling.





GrowingOnMeLikeAWartPunkin

 

[neonmeate]

Assuming the speakers are placed equidistantly from each respective ear, you're in an anechoic chamber and the sound from each speaker is somehow stopped from passing to the other side of your head (because you can hear sounds from opposite directions even without reflections) then it will probably be perceived as mono by all listeners. Doesn't stop there actually being two signals, but.

experiment for you bum: play a mono recording through two speakers. don't have to use your anechoic chamber if you don't want to. does it sound like two speakers or one?

 

[bum]

Your experiment is the exact opposite of the position you were previously presenting. Previously two even level signals were no longer stereo - now we're dealing with a mono source all of a sudden?

Regardless, since you specify I can put the speakers in a normal room and assuming I am not placed at the exact tip of an equilateral speaker/speaker/human triangle (which wouldn't make it impossible) - yes, I absolutely can tell there are two speakers because I have two ears. I can tell what direction each speaker is in with eyes closed and I can even make a reasonable guess as to what size (and possbly shape) the room might be. I'll grant you that the source signal is absolutely still mono.

[EDIT: errant characters]

 

[neonmeate]

Your experiment is the exact opposite of the position you were previously presenting. Previously two even level signals were no longer stereo - now we're dealing with a mono source all of a sudden?
[EDIT: errant characters]

but that is my point bum. two even level signals are exactly the same as mono. it's the differences between two sound sources in a stereo mix that make them perceived as separate. and that's enough pointless argument. sorry Mike L'ltorus

 

[bum]

exactly the same...[snip]...perceived

And there you have it.

Regardless, even if a person only has one ear, we are hard-wired (in an evolutionary/survival sense) to have very directional hearing. You cannot hear in mono - the closest you'll get is in an anechoic chamber and people tend to start to feel physically unwell with prolonged exposure. We hate it - it is unnatural. It just doesn't happen.

Can't tell the difference? Doesn't mean physics and psychoacoustics change all of a sudden.

 

[Malted]

I'm accidently starting to like you :lol:

That sounds like a serious accident. I'd advise you to seek medical attention before it festers.

 

[pbrosnan]

1 - Why would that stop you from contributing to the OP? That's moronic.

2 - Why would you think your contribution so important and original that you'd give it without reading the entire thread?

1. Can you explain the moron comment? I was just not wanting to distract you noobs from your intercourse.
2. Hmmm ... maybe because I anticipated some intelligent comment. Sadly I was wrong as your comment so admirably demonstrates. Well done sir, on with your circle jerk!