The Kidney Slapper

[Fish13]

I got a mate coming round today and i have some left over extracts i want to get rid off. Plus i am trying to get him involved in home brewing...

We love fishing and KGW are a wonderful table fish and was hoping to make a style similar to the fish.

Wonderful colour and great taste that wants you to come back for more.

So i have come up with this in a lager.

The Kidney slapper (Australian Lager)

Original Gravity (OG): 1.046 (P): 11.4
Final Gravity (FG): 1.008 (P): 2.1
Alcohol (ABV): 4.94 %
Colour (SRM): 7.1 (EBC): 13.9
Bitterness (IBU): 18.8 (Average)

46.78% Liquid Malt Extract - Light
26.32% Liquid Malt Extract - Dark
23.39% Dextrose
3.51% Caramunich I

1 g/L Columbus (14.2% Alpha) @ 20 Minutes (Boil)
0.8 g/L Fuggles (5.7% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma)


Single step Infusion at 66C for 60 Minutes. Boil for 50 Minutes

Fermented at 20C with Saflager S-23


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I don't know if i should drop a bit of the dextrose - which is a mixture of dextrose and dextrin i think, its called brewcellar gold and came in 500g lots - and make it more of a mid strength lager or just leave it as it is. This will be chilled before going into a cube to ferment.

Any idea's? or modifications i should do to it? I do have Glacier also. Have more of glacier and Columbus then i do of Fuggles and i have a 12g tea bag of POR.

 

[manticle]

First thing that stands out is your fermentation temperature. Unless you are deliberately wanting an estery beer like a california common type thing then either drop the temp closer to 10 or use an ale yeast.

I think dextrose is a good addition in small amounts to all extract brews as they can have a bit of cloying sweetness sometimes. It sounds like your mix has some maltodextrin in it which will have the opposite effect to the dex. I'd sub it with straight dex but use less - maybe 15%?

Also because of the potential sweetness of the extract (and also personal taste), I'd look at upping the bittering to balance - maybe 25-30 IBU.

It's a little mixed up - english hops, maltiness and a lager yeast but if you know what you want to push from those ingredients, there no reason it can't work. If you're not sure though, maybe stick with tried and true combos until you work out what you like from each.

Have a read of this: (you can select beer type/style and it will give suggestions and substitutes) http://byo.com/resources/hops?style=5

and this very early topic from me has quite a few very useful links: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...c=30088&hl=

 

[yum beer]

+1 to manticle for temps.


I think you may have something out of whack in brewmate, by my calculations with that bill your EBC will be around 19, very dark for a lager.

I would drop the amount of dark malt and caramunich to give a lighter finish and balance up with light malt. Yes swap the dex for your mix.
I dont know how much hops you have on hand but if you go with your POR bag for 60 minutes, then glacier at 1 g/l for 20 then 2 g/l for 10, about 28-29 IBU

Ive never tried Glacier but have always been keen, so ATM im living vicarisly through you.

 

[Fish13]

Thats just the standard temp for Brewmate. I will aim for about 16 degree's. I could use the columbus for aroma aswell. If i could make a IPA with what i have i would but unfortunately i dont

All i have is this

columbus 200g
glacier 200g
fuggle 20g?
pride of ringwood a finishing hops teabag
700ml LLME
300ml of LDME
2kg of BREW cellar special gold mix
1kg Coopers Brew enchancer #1
S-33 yeast and i think a coopers yeast for a britsh bitter ale.


Cool thanks for the links manticle. I might push the bitterness to 30. I made a kilkenny clone that is really creamy and easy to drink and that had 18 IBU.

cheers

 

[Fish13]

a bit of a remake #2

The Kidney slapper (Standard American Lager)

Original Gravity (OG): 1.045 (P): 11.2
Final Gravity (FG): 1.008 (P): 2.1
Alcohol (ABV): 4.81 %
Colour (SRM): 7.4 (EBC): 14.6
Bitterness (IBU): 20.5 (Average)

46.92% Liquid Malt Extract - Light
26.39% Liquid Malt Extract - Dark
21.99% Dextrose
4.69% Caramunich I

1 g/L Glacier (4.7% Alpha) @ 50 Minutes (Boil)
0.8 g/L Glacier (4.7% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil)
0.8 g/L Glacier (4.7% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma)


Single step Infusion at 66C for 60 Minutes. Boil for 50 Minutes

Fermented at 16C with Saflager S-23


Recipe Generated with BrewMate


dropped the dex mix by 25g
and the upped caramunich by 20g.

I'll tinker a bit more but should be all good soonish.

 

[brettprevans]

What yr makung isnt an aussie larger with ur current recipe so dont worry about style. Gkacier and columbus wil work tigether for an ipa. Use glacier late and columbus early. Depending on how mu,h hops u got of course.

 

[amiddler]

What grain are you mashing for 60mins? The Caramunich on its own won't require a mash merely a steep at ~60'C for 15-20 mins.

 

[Fish13]

What grain are you mashing for 60mins? The Caramunich on its own won't require a mash merely a steep at ~60'C for 15-20 mins.

yeah i dont know how to change it but it will be a steep at 70 degree's for 30 minutes

 

[Fish13]

the final recipe and its coming along well. had a apple cider aroma to start with and that is now gone and its gone to a beer aroma we all love. did a sg today and its at 1012 so hopefully by next sunday it should be ready to bottle after a few days in the fridge.

Next time i make this i will remember not to poor the whole trub in and make sure all my hop socks are washed ready to go.

The Kidney slapper


Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 12.0
Total Grain (kg): 1.590
Total Hops (g): 32.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.042 (P): 10.5
Final Gravity (FG): 1.008 (P): 2.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.49 %
Colour (SRM): 6.8 (EBC): 13.3
Bitterness (IBU): 20.7 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 50

Grain Bill
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0.800 kg Liquid Malt Extract - Light (50.31%)
0.375 kg Liquid Malt Extract - Dark (23.58%)
0.350 kg Dextrose (22.01%)
0.065 kg Caramunich I (4.09%)

Hop Bill
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12.0 g Glacier Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 50 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)
10.0 g Glacier Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
10.0 g Glacier Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.8 g/L)

Misc Bill
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Steep at 70C for 30 Minutes.
Fermented at 16C with Saflager S-23


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