The Brauduino (Matho’s Controller) Buy thread

[lael]

hey lael,

Sorry to be a pain in the *** but I just wanted to check that I can run 2x2400w element using this kit.
I think I remember something about it in the thread but buggered if I could find it now with all the pages and lists of names in it.

I remember in your video you said there was only one element out but there was also an auxiliary out, is that the one you use for a second element?

hey dropbear,

Not a problem at all. Yep - specifically designed to allow that configuration. 2xssr for 2xheating elements are included in the kit, and yes, the aux power in and out are for the 2nd ssr. As with all 240v questions, check whether you should and how to do this with your electrician when you get the box certified for use. I will post a video showing how I have done it on my setup, however, I am not an electrician and can not recommend you follow my set up. The video will be purely as an indication of how *I* have done it. Again - get your electrician to do it for you or certify any work you do.

Edit: It is worth noting there is only ONE heating output from the board, but it can run both SSRs should you wish / choose to do so. The kit can't for example, control a HLT AND a separate kettle / mashing recirc pot. There is one temp probe and one heating output control.

 

[lael]

Now that I think about it, there is an error in the video, the blue should be power in and grey should be power out. Appropriate numbers will be in the kit. The colours don't make any difference on functionality of the sockets, but it is good to follow accepted standards on which is power in and out.

 

[freelander2002]

Electrician here If we are to be picky about wire colors for the 220 AC side, we should adhere to IEC standard that most industrial contrys follow. Blue= neutral and should run unswitched all the way unless you have a 2 pole breaker/switch. Black are live wire and are the wire to break when using one pole break like the ssr does. Yellow/green are ground/protective earth and must be connected to all metal parts not enclosed by box and also to all eqipment connected to controller unless double isolated eqipment. this means: pot, heating coil, pump motor regardless of voltage and should always be connected to protective earth in the building

 

[Brendandrage]

hey dropbear,

Not a problem at all. Yep - specifically designed to allow that configuration. 2xssr for 2xheating elements are included in the kit, and yes, the aux power in and out are for the 2nd ssr.

Sorry to be a pain but can we run 2 pumps off this systems as well ?

 

[lael]

Sorry to be a pain but can we run 2 pumps off this systems as well ?

No, there is only one relay to switch the pump with. If you really wanted to, I suppose you could get creative and run that to a double adapter. However, there is one power in for the first heating element and the pump and the controller, so you would prob max out the circuit and trip it. The relay for the pump is rated to 5A, which also is probably not enough for 2x 240v pumps.

 

[Brendandrage]

No problem I'll work around it

 

[lael]

Curious Brendan, what are you building with it?

 

[Brendandrage]

Just building a 50 litre bm clone
They run the twin pumps but I think I'll split the outlet so it spreads across the malt tube. I have also been looking at the keg king pumps as well, it says that they draw only 1.6amps but I'm not sure about on start up.

 

[lael]

Yeah, I use a kaixin/ kegking pump with my braumonster. With the malt pipe extension I'll do anything up to 20kgs at 33cmID. I have a single outlet under the bottom plate. Flow through and efficiency are good. I personally wouldn't bother with dual pumps.

 

[Brendandrage]

That's what I wanted to hear just saved $100 on another pump and fittings

Cheers

 

[lael]

You're welcome!

 

[lael]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks to everyone who has already paid! I appreciate your enthusiasm and support, without which this project would not be possible.

If you haven't seen this post: http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/69155-the-brauduino-matho%E2%80%99s-controller-buy-thread/page-46#entry1251289 It has more details on pricing etc.

The costing came out to $245AUD per kit + $15 postage (AusPost express) once all the parts and exchange rates are accounted for.

If you are outside Aus, the kit is almost exactly 1.5kg, which means that the calculation needs to be for 1.5-2kg to allow for packaging (appx 150/200gr I think). If you are international, the price is $245+Intl postage+$5 for packaging materials. Go to: http://auspost.com.au/apps/postage-calculator.html and select Overseas (parcels) and check out weights. Generally better value can be had by combining weight - eg: 2 kits =3-3.5kg and usually makes shipping cost per kit half. I apologise in advance for the expense. I guess Aus is a long way away from everywhere.

I've put together a quick (actually, it is 30mins...) video showing what is included and how it all goes together so if you are trying to figure out what is included and how difficult / easy it is, give it a watch. It is so beautifully simple to put together. Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdKQ31dLl28

If you are ready to pay - the information you need is here:
https://docs.google....?usp=send_form�

Based on the first survey I did, I'm looking at getting heating elements and stainless plates to make the build process easier. So there is a quick survey about that. The only question you have to complete is the one saying - Yes I will be responsible for the kit I build, not Lael (basically - you build it, you are responsible for it). Once you submit that, you'll get account details to put the money into, and I can start ordering parts! (I'll actually wait a little until we get enough people paid for this to go ahead). I'll add payment status to the above list once it starts coming in.



The List below is including information on payment, so please don't edit it at this point. If you want to join the buy, or have decided not to go ahead with it, just PM me.

A BIG Thank You! to Austin and the Admin crew for giving me supporter status to allow me to handle all the messages coming through. Super appreciated!

The list below indicates what I have received. If you have paid and it is not indicated on the list, wait a few days. I will try to update it regularly. The banks are a little extra slow at this time of year.


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[Brendandrage]

All paid thanks man
Looking forward to the element and pot prices as well.

Thanks heaps for your efforts

Cheers

 

[camelbak28]

Thanks again for your effort. Payment made

 

[breakbeer]

Payday tomorrow, I'll get straight onto it

Thanks for all your hard work, can't wait to make use of it

I already have a Brauduino V.1 & it has made brewing soooo much easier. Gotta love being able to go to the shops or now the lawn & let it take care of bizness for you!

 

[sluggerdog]

I've just paid too.

Thanks again for your help with this.

I'm very interested in the wifi feature, I've done a quick google and found this which I assume is what we would need: http://blog.spark.io/2014/11/12/introducing-the-19-dollar-photon/

What do you suggest we could do if we want to set this up at the time we build the kit?

Cheers

 

[lael]

Hi Sluggerdog,

There isn't code for the spark core yet. Hopefully some people will be keen to port the code now that the photon will be affordable and the shield is available.

There are two parts needed:
1. Hardware- the shield shield and the photon.
2. Software - porting the code to spark and then providing a mobile interface as well.

We've gone with using the shield shield to make it possible to use both the mega or the spark arduinos.

Cheers,

Lael

 

[sluggerdog]

Hi Sluggerdog,

There isn't code for the spark core yet. Hopefully some people will be keen to port the code now that the photon will be affordable and the shield is available.

There are two parts needed:
1. Hardware- the shield shield and the photon.
2. Software - porting the code to spark and then providing a mobile interface as well.

We've gone with using the shield shield to make it possible to use both the mega or the spark arduinos.

Cheers,

Lael

Thanks Lael,

So would you suggest if we are interested in this in the future that we should pre-order the photon and hope the code comes sometime soon?

 

[lael]

The code won't arrive any time in the immediate future I don't think. I would wait, use the mega that comes with the kit. The truth is, with reliable automation having wireless access to find out what is happening is cool but unnecessary. The brauduino just does its thing. When you learn to chill and trust it, it is quite freeing.

 

[Mardoo]

RDWATTB

(Relax, Don't Worry and Trust the Brauduino)

Although remote startup would be very cool.