Stuff Left Over Hopburst Ipa (?)- Thoughts On Recipe

[peas_and_corn]

OK, I've got a bunch of hops that are left over from other batches, and also some grains and whatnot, so I am thinking of throwing them all together in a hopburst beer! Recipe-

50L batch

7kg Pale Malt
3.6kg Wheat Malt
400g 60L Crystal
400g Melanoidin
100g Choc Malt

And here's the hops in the hopburst- weight, type, AA%

25g Columbus 14.2%
30g Simcoe 11.9%
30g Amarillo Gold 8.6%
40g Centennial 10.5%
50g Chinook 11.4%
60g Magnum 13.1%
10g EK Goldings 4.7%
40g Nelson Sauvin 13.3%

That's 285g of hops

Thinking of hopbursting at 60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5 and 0, with 50g saved for dry hopping- that makes it 29.3....g per addition.

Thoughts?

 

[Adamt]

Shite-sauce, there's some high alpha hops there... Throw it into promash/beersmith and be sure you don't overdo the IBUs.

Maybe 60g of the mix in at 30, 20, 10 and F/O and the rest dry hopped? That'll get you around 50-60IBU I think.

 

[Pollux]

As a lover of the leftover hopburst IPA myself, I tend to go more towards no additions until the 30min mark. I do 30,25,20,15,10,5,0.

Just tasted my latest hopburst that is currently in primary, is shaping up quite well, bitter but smooth.

 

[peas_and_corn]

Shite-sauce, there's some high alpha hops there... Throw it into promash/beersmith and be sure you don't overdo the IBUs.

Maybe 60g of the mix in at 30, 20, 10 and F/O and the rest dry hopped? That'll get you around 50-60IBU I think.

Yeah, I haven't divided it all up to whack into promash yet, but yeah, there are some high % hops there. If they were all 60m additions they would make 215IBUs!

 

[peas_and_corn]

As a lover of the leftover hopburst IPA myself, I tend to go more towards no additions until the 30min mark. I do 30,25,20,15,10,5,0.

Just tasted my latest hopburst that is currently in primary, is shaping up quite well, bitter but smooth.

Is your recipe somewhere on AHB? Link?

 

[Pollux]

There was my big leftover one I did a while back.
, the current one is below.

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 22.00 L
Boil Size: 29.06 L
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 18.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 96.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 55.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 80.00 %
0.75 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) (3.Grain 12.00 %
0.30 kg Carared (Weyermann) (47.3 EBC) Grain 4.80 %
0.20 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 3.20 %

I deleted the actual hop addidtions as they took over the page, but it was 10grams each of Cascade, Williamette, US Tettnang and Simcoe at 30,25,20,15,10,5,0.

 

[drsmurto]

I did an AIPA using up leftover hops

Was going to go the hopburst but that involved mixing etc so just threw this down.

4.15 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.9 EBC) Grain 69.75 %
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 16.81 %
0.40 kg Crystal, Medium (Barret Burston)) (180.0 EBC) Grain 6.72 %
0.35 kg Melanoidin (Weyermann) (59.1 EBC) Grain 5.88 %
0.05 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 0.84 %
10.00 gm Cascade [6.30 %] (60 min) Hops 6.3 IBU
15.00 gm Chinook [12.40 %] (20 min) Hops 11.3 IBU
8.00 gm D Saaz [4.40 %] (20 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [6.30 %] (20 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
12.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.60 %] (20 min) Hops 9.2 IBU
25.00 gm Saaz [2.50 %] (20 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [6.30 %] (10 min) Hops 3.4 IBU
13.00 gm Chinook [12.40 %] (10 min) Hops 5.9 IBU
14.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.70 %] (10 min) Hops 2.4 IBU
30.00 gm Cascade [6.30 %] (0 min)
15.00 gm Chinook [12.40 %] (0 min)

 

[peas_and_corn]

I suppose the problem I have is that so many of my hops are high AA. Maybe use half for dry hopping and the rest for hopbursting, starting at 30 mins, 5 minute gaps between additions?

 

[Adamt]

Half for dry hopping will be way too much, it'll end up very grassy.

 

[peas_and_corn]

Hmm, makes sense.

SO... maybe cut some of the hops out? Maybe the Magnum?

 

[Pollux]

I wonder if there is a way to setup the hopburst mixture as a single variety in any brewing software?

Average the AA% for weights, although you have odd weights which makes life a bit trickier.

 

[Katherine]

[quote
Maybe 60g of the mix in at 30, 20, 10 and F/O and the rest dry hopped? That'll get you around 50-60IBU I think.
[/quote]

+ 1
shouldnt be a 60 minute addition for a hopburst...

 

[peas_and_corn]

Is there a particular reason why 60 min additions need to be avoided in hopbursts?

EDIT: ooh, 3,000 posts!

 

[Pollux]

Just found this thread, it has a calculator....

 

[peas_and_corn]

Awesome, cheers for the link

 

[Katherine]

Is there a particular reason why 60 min additions need to be avoided in hopbursts?

EDIT: ooh, 3,000 posts!

think hop burst..... so no bittering

 

[peas_and_corn]

According to the excel docco, if I use all of them for hop additions it will be-

Boil Time Utilisation % IBU's
30 17.11035946 17.43755803
25 13.49802592 13.75614644
20 10.47527504 10.675592
15 8.227765416 8.385103613
10 6.699216656 6.827324668
5 5.721640045 5.831054021
0 5.120806365 5.218730698
For total IBUs of 68.


Average AA% 12.51929825 AA
Total Amount of Hops 285 G
Amount Per Addition 40.71428571 G
TOTAL IBU's 68.13150947

So if I take out 60g for dry hopping that'll reduce it a bit to... something lower, I guess.

 

[Katherine]

Ive just re read the thread title.... hopburst IPA ahhhh so would that require bittering???? I was thinking pale ale. Or have I spent to much time at the pub drinking amber ale?

 

[peas_and_corn]

Well, it's written down as IPA because I thought it sounded all right- though it's not a style written in stone.

 

[BennyBrewster]

I love the way you guys nut out a brew the night before, makes me wanna fire up the HLT right now.