(swinkels)
i think it doesnt like the 7 days in the secondary with no co2. and yet i add a little sugar with the finnings i can't refrigerate .
do we rack it earlier or spend less time in the secondary. i have a co2 bottle maybe i should burp it.
swinkels,
The time in secondary should not rely on CO2 being added. Many brewers have left beer for long periods in secondary (mostly at cooler temps) with litle, if any, negative effect. U prob could have racked earlier...but:
If your beer smells OK and tastes OK, I'd be inclined to follow POL's advice and leave the last few cm behind when bottling. Don't let the beer get hot, though, as you will have the same problem that Corellion had.
(Corellion)
So from what I know (and the god-awful smell), this is indication of some sort of yeast-infection, or possibly just a straight-out bacterial infection, right? The odour wasn't readily identifiable as anything more than "alcoholic" (I'd call it vaguely like propanol from experience in other realms of life).
Corellion, just some feedback from a man of experience...I don't feel that you have an infection issue, so breathe easy on that score. Yes, the white film/filth is an issue, but mostly the problem is heat. Some yeasts will produce nasty fusels (higher/tertiary alcohols) at higher temperatures. Only a day at 30C may be enough to give your beer that propanol/ acetone flavour, and prob encourages the surface bacteria.
Storage will
not, repeat not, remove these flavours. If you don't believe me, I'm happy to post you a stubbie of American Wheat beer that was bottled about 12 months ago after 1 hot day (pm me, if you really want it). :blink:
I've mostly had the heat/fusel problem with American Ale yeast (and lack of temp control). Prob not a good idea to culture/re-use the yeast from this beer either as it retains the fusel character.
I have also had the fusel problem compouned by the white film, but no real prob as the beer was already a write-off.
Uncle Seth
PS Why did I keep the fusel Wheat beer? I didn't need the bottles at the time and I had to prove to myself (as a scientist) that there was no recovery from this disaster.
Proved, without a doubt, I'd say. As some would say, "Myth Busted".
