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IM putting together an AG porter recipie and was after some feedback

4.5kgPale Malt
.3kg chocolate malt
.4kg munich 1
.05 black malt

25gm POR @60min
20gm East kent goldings @60min
20gm east kent goldings @ 15min

Some sort of english yeast

Bitterness IBU's is 37.2
colour is 56.1

What ya reckon??

Cheers Ben
 
I love porter...my fav Style :icon_cheers:

Maybe up your IBU to above 40....to give it some oommfff
 
My personal taste only, but I'd go for more munich. Got a 1st placing in the SABSOSA lasy year with 2.7kg's of Munich 2 in a 30L batch
I haven't tried all the English yeasts yet, but have had the most success with 1028 London ale.

Cheers
BB
 
Good Day
In robust porters I usually use 500 to 600 grams of chocolate malt.
 
this recipie has already been altered once by myself just wondering if people think this will turn out alright been told to much choc malt makes it taste to much like coffee??
 
Slip maybe 100g of Caraffa II in there, mmmmm. And use an aggresive yeastie like Nottingham, mid point balance value for a Porter is about 1.17. Guessing your OG at around 1.048 and using Nottingham AA of around 76+% it should finish at around 1.011 . So your bitterness of 37 - 38 IBU will be right around the BV of 1.17, spot on given there's nothing much in your malt bill to up the body too much.

Should be nice, roll on winter.

Screwy



Yeah this is for my chrissy in july swap
 
Yeah this is for my chrissy in july swap


Forgot about the No Edit, went to correct the speeeeelung of Caraffa and deleted the bloody post instead.

Again

Slip maybe 100g of Carafa II in there, mmmmm. And use an aggresive yeastie like Nottingham, mid point balance value for a Porter is about 1.17. Guessing your OG at around 1.048 and using Nottingham AA of around 76+% it should finish at around 1.011 . So your bitterness of 37 - 38 IBU will be right around the BV of 1.17, spot on given there's nothing much in your malt bill to up the body too much.

Should be nice, roll on winter.

Screwy
 
Hi Ben,

That amount of choc isn't over doing it. The black malt, although small, isn't necessary.

Why are you using the goldings for the boil addition? If it's because you're are drawing a line at the number of IBU's from the POR fair enough. I didn't work out how much they'd contribute. I generally cut it off at about 22.

Your yeast selection will make a big difference. I like white labs burton ale in a porter.

All the best,

Scott
 
Why are you using the goldings for the boil addition? If it's because you're are drawing a line at the number of IBU's from the POR fair enough. I didn't work out how much they'd contribute. I generally cut it off at about 22.

I did something similar in a stout I made this year ... haven't opened it yet.
The "don't bitter over 21 rule with POR" ... is it a myth?
 
The "don't bitter over 21 rule with POR" ... is it a myth?

It is absolutely a myth IMHO Braufrau, I have an Aussie ale on tap at the moment, with only one addition at 60mins bittered to 30IBU and it is a lovely, smooth beer.

cheers

Browndog
 
Dont worry about the Black Malt but I do love the Carafa Special II
 
Cheers guys i will be putting this down in a week or so, i better work on getting some yeast
 
I made a change to my recipie

4 kgPale Malt
.3kg chocolate malt
.4kg munich 1
.2 caramalt
.05 black malt

25gm POR @60min
10gm East kent goldings @60min
10gm east kent goldings @ 15min

yeast is 1098

What ya reckon??

Cheers Ben
 
I made a change to my recipie

4 kgPale Malt
.3kg chocolate malt
.4kg munich 1
.2 caramalt
.05 black malt

25gm POR @60min
10gm East kent goldings @60min
10gm east kent goldings @ 15min

yeast is 1098

What ya reckon??

Cheers Ben

Hi Ben -- I've only looked at the hops and have to say POR even at 60 minutes is going to add its own unique character. If you have some Fuggles aim for a combo of Goldings and fuggles for your 60 minute addition that gives you the same IBUs. POR is one of those "dirty sock" hops that you either love or loath. Guess which I am? :)

Leave the Goldings as they are later in the boil.

Steve
 
Hi Ben -- I've only looked at the hops and have to say POR even at 60 minutes is going to add its own unique character. If you have some Fuggles aim for a combo of Goldings and fuggles for your 60 minute addition that gives you the same IBUs. POR is one of those "dirty sock" hops that you either love or loath. Guess which I am? :)

Leave the Goldings as they are later in the boil.

Steve


I actually thgink i have some of those lying around will look into it
 
I would agree with Barry - Up the chocolate a bit. I made a porter with similar grain bill and the chocolate needed to be higher

Bruce
 
I did something similar in a stout I made this year ... haven't opened it yet.
The "don't bitter over 21 rule with POR" ... is it a myth?


It is 100% myth! I just bittered a stout with mothing but POR to over 40 IBU and it smelt great. Ive done the same with other beers too and its a great hop. Earthy and pleasant.

As for the recipe, id put the hops back to what they were, a chunk of goildings for flavour and aroma wont go astray.

The malt........ Id like to know what size batch your making. With a darker beer its important you ballance out the specilty malts so it all works together.

I will assume your making a 23 liter batch

here is your recipe, I would drop the caramalt (its a bit sweet) and use crystal malt. use about 50% more crystal than chocolate so the sweetness ballances the roast of the chocolate and black. the 1% black will be fine.
Im not sure what software you use but this was going to be a fairly bitter beer for a brown porter. When you get into the 1.060 robust porters you want to go around the 40+ IBU mark but i have put the hops into Pormash for you with my recomended changes to help ballance the beer.

4 kgPale Malt
.3kg chocolate malt
.4kg munich 1
.2 caramalt
.05 black malt

25gm POR @60min
10gm East kent goldings @60min
10gm east kent goldings @ 15min



Here is what i would do......... not saying you have to but ive made tops porters like this before. Munich is pointless used in very small quantities....... it basicly a base malt and 20% is a good mark i recon.

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
-------------------------------

12-A Porter, Brown Porter

Min OG: 1.040 Max OG: 1.052
Min IBU: 18 Max IBU: 35
Min Clr: 39 Max Clr: 59 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 23.00 Wort Size (L): 23.00
Total Grain (kg): 4.70
Anticipated OG: 1.048 Plato: 11.85
Anticipated EBC: 54.5
Anticipated IBU: 27.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
63.8 3.00 kg. Ale Malt Australia 1.038 7
21.3 1.00 kg. Weyermann Munich I Germany 1.038 15
8.5 0.40 kg. TF Crystal UK 1.034 145
5.3 0.25 kg. TF Chocolate Malt UK 1.033 900
1.1 0.05 kg. TF Black Malt UK 1.033 1300

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
20.00 g. Pride of Ringwood Pellet 10.20 25.4 60 min.
10.00 g. Goldings - E.K. Pellet 4.20 2.6 15 min.
20.00 g. Goldings - E.K. Pellet 4.20 0.0 0 min.


Yeast
-----

what ever you want





mate the old 8,5,1 crystal,choc, black ratio works every time.

as you can see you will end up with a 1.048 beer at about 28 IBU which fits smack bang in with the guidelines for a brown porter.

cheers
 
So i made this beer and have been drinking it for a bit. Its really nice but lacking body the recipie i used was

4 kgPale Malt
.3kg chocolate malt
.4kg munich 1
.2 caramalt
.05 black malt

25gm Fuggles @60min
10gm East kent goldings @60min
10gm east kent goldings @ 15min

yeast is 1098


I am going to make it again but base it on tonys recipie changed just a little


3.5kg pale malt
1kg munich 1
.4 caramalt
.25 chocolate malt
.05 black malt

20gm POR 60min
20gm EKG 15min
20gm EKG 0min

1098 Yeast



Do you think this will have more body to my previous recipie???

CHeers KHB
 

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