Recipe Idea Apa

[Eyelusion]

Thinking of putting this down tonight and was wondering what you all think?

Coopers Draught 1.7 kg
Light Dry Malt 1 kg
Dextrose 400 g
Light Crystal 200 g (steeped for 20 min)
Cascade 15 g for 20 min
Cascade 15 g steeped for 5 min then thrown in
US05
23L batch

OG: 1.047
FG: 1.011
5.2% Alc Bottle

Cheers all for coments
:icon_cheers:

 

[jonocarroll]

I'm quite fond of Cascade APAs, and I'd recommend upping the hops a lot - an APA should scream hop flavour and aroma.

I'd say try steeping 25g for 30 mins, 20g for 15 mins, and a dry hop of 15g half way through the ferment. Yum!

 

[Nick JD]

Sound good. I'd ditch the Coopers Draft can and replace it with a 1.5kg Coopers LME and a 25g boil for 45 minutes + of a 10%+ AA hop. You're gonna have to boil your steep anyway ... why not boil it for 60 minutes and add real hop bitterness? 2c.

 

[petesbrew]

Sounds like a nice one.

 

[Rod]

I am not trying to hijack this thread , and can delete this post and start a new post
but because the posts are around the hop additions
I began to think about the hop happenings

I have just put a Boonies Little creatures pale ale into the fermenter

Boonies Little Creatures Pale ale

Ingredients -
1.7kg Morgans Stockmans Draught
1.5Kg Coopers Liquid Light Malt Extract
40g Cascade pellets
15g Chinook pellets
Safale US56 yeast

Notes -
boil 6L water with liquid malt.
Add 25g Cascade for 15mins
Add 15g Cascade at flame out
cool pot in sink
pour wort into fermenter
Pour kit can into fermenter
top up fermentor to 23L
ferment at 16-18 degrees
rack to secondary

dry hop with 15g Chinook pellets

Racked after 7 days
OG - 1047
FG - 1013
Alcohol - 5.2%

In the notes

boil 6L water with liquid malt.
Add 25g Cascade for 15mins
etc

You then add the Morgans to the fermenter


What happens to the flavour profile if you add the Morgans from the start
ie a more concentrated brew
and then proceed
with adding hops at boiling for 15 minutes and then more hops at flame out etc

 

[glaab]

Looks good to me. I agree with Nick about the LLME because I've found it difficult to predict the bitterness with the cans. The malt will make it sweeter but the 15min addition will add 6 IBU which should make it about right by my guesstimation. I would just throw the 5min addition straight in the boil at 5min and another 15g at flameout.....bloody marvellous, you could put it on your corn flakes that... :icon_drool2:

 

[Eyelusion]

thx all for the comments and yeah I think Ill ditch the coopers draught as suggested
and i think ill have a golden ale as im putting this down tonight
cheers :chug:

 

[manticle]

You then add the Morgans to the fermenter


What happens to the flavour profile if you add the Morgans from the start
ie a more concentrated brew
and then proceed
with adding hops at boiling for 15 minutes and then more hops at flame out etc

You will change the hop flavour profile of the tin (bitterness will remain the same) and need to be aware of stirring so the concentrate doesn't stick and burn at the bottom. I think that's about all. Being a 15 minute boil it probably won't change that much. Give it a go if it's easier.

 

[lespaul]

What happens to the flavour profile if you add the Morgans from the start
ie a more concentrated brew
and then proceed
with adding hops at boiling for 15 minutes and then more hops at flame out etc

so you add both cans or just swap the LME with the Morgans?

 

[Fermented]

Maybe drop the dex and increase the LDME / LME. Give it a bit more body.

There isn't really a need to boil the cans for the full duration or at all as it tends to darken up somewhat and add sometimes some caramelisation if there isn't enough water in the pot. It also tends to drive off any hops volatiles and mess with the flavour and fragrance to some extent.

Hopping schedule seems ok but if you changed to 15@30, 15@15 and 15@0 it might be more interesting and enhance the result.

lol - ask ten brewers, get over 9000 suggestions.

Best of luck!

Cheers - Fermented.

 

[Eyelusion]

Maybe drop the dex and increase the LDME / LME. Give it a bit more body.

There isn't really a need to boil the cans for the full duration or at all as it tends to darken up somewhat and add sometimes some caramelisation if there isn't enough water in the pot. It also tends to drive off any hops volatiles and mess with the flavour and fragrance to some extent.

Hopping schedule seems ok but if you changed to 15@30, 15@15 and 15@0 it might be more interesting and enhance the result.

lol - ask ten brewers, get over 9000 suggestions.

Best of luck!

Cheers - Fermented.

Cheers

 

[RobboMC]

More malt, no dex and more Cascade IMHO.

I did something quite similar a few months back,
Coopers kit plus 2kg of malt, 1 kg of crystal grain and and 100g of Cascade.

As you can see you are nowhere near the point of having too much malt or hop.

It's your beer so make what you like, but I'd go around 1.5kg of malt, 0.5 kg of Crystal
and at least 50g of Cascade on whatever schedule you dream up depending on whether you're after
bitterness or flavour or aroma.