Recipe help Northern English Brown Ale Pls.

[scooterism]

Hi,

I'm new to this style, so be gentle pls.

The one thing I'm unsure about is the amount of crystal to use, I guess I'm not after a crazy dark or strong nutty beer.

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Recipe: Ordinary Bitter
Brewer: 
Asst Brewer: 
Style: Northern English Brown Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) 

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 27.84 l
Post Boil Volume: 25.00 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 22.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.048 SG
Estimated Color: 11.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 23.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 75.1 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
23.00 l               Gold Coast Water                         Water         1        -             
3.00 kg               Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.9 EBC)           Grain         2        58.3 %        
2.00 kg               Vienna Malt (6.9 EBC)                    Grain         3        38.8 %        
0.15 kg               Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L (59.1 EBC)    Grain         4        2.9 %         
25.00 g               Target [7.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min          Hop           5        19.9 IBUs     
1.22 Items            Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)        Fining        6        -             
20.00 g               East Kent Goldings (EKG) [4.60 %] - Boil Hop           7        3.8 IBUs      
1.0 pkg               Safale American  (DCL/Fermentis #US-05)  Yeast         8        -             
0.50 tsp              Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days)        Other         9        -             


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 5.15 kg
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Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In           Add 13.48 l of water at 73.1 C          66.7 C        60 min        

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 19.57l) of 75.6 C water
Notes:
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[DUANNE]

just me but id knock back the vienna malt to around 15% or less use a medium english crystal around 10% and use just enough tf pale choc to get you to the required colour range. and definitely change out the yeast for a british yeast the esters are important to getting an english brown right.id also be tempted to up the whirlpool charge to 50g or so and use a small ekg dry hop as well.

 

[manticle]

First of all the recipe looks like it will make a tasty beer.

If you are after a reasonable attempt at an NEB (whether entering a comp or just inspired by smith's nutbrown or hobgoblin)
then a couple of things stand out.

First and maybe most important - yeast. Good UK style needs good UK yeast. 05 is too neutral.

Second - I'd use all uk pale as a base. Vienna does give some nutty toasty notes but uk pale like golden promise, maris or perle will suit better. Add more toasty goodness with a shade of biscuit or victory if desired.

Third - that doesn't look like it will be especially brown. Maybe a bit of brown malt or pale choc (not overdone) to get some colour. You don't want super roasty but choc in small amounts tends to add a dry edge to the palate.

Little bit of calcium chloride won't go astray.

I'd also consider dropping the gravity a shade, depending on what fg you expect.

As said though - recipe unchanged equals nice beer.

 

[scooterism]

Well big thanks for the input,

Plenty of food for thought, but what I might do is take a little of Manticles advice and leave the recipe as is, brew that and research some more on what I exactly what I want to make.

I come from a land of Pils and German Lagers, but it's time for change.

So, given the recipe as it is, what style would it fall into?

 

[ianh]

Not sure if you can change the style in Beersmith to English Northern Brown Ale. If not you get the AABC style guidelines here http://aabc.org.au/docs/AABC2015StyleGuidelines_OnePagePerStyle.pdf

English Northern Brown Ale is 9.1

 

[DUANNE]

left as is it should make a nice drinkable pale ale of sorts. if nothing else i would still use a brit yeast rather than the uso5. and hit it with a dry hop.

 

[Adr_0]

I definitely agree with using a UK yeast. Not sure whether white laws on Wyeast is your poison, but one of the London of Thames strains should do very well.

If you only have dry available, I can vouch for MJ's Empire Ale (though will be bready/nutty) while the London/Thames varieties will by fruitier and drier.

 

[scooterism]

I will change the yeast, thanks for the suggestions.

I only listed 05 as I have that on hand.

 

[manticle]

Woth a uk yeast, you'd be pretty close to best bitter or English pale.

 

[Rattlehead989]

OG: 1.051
FG: 1.013
13 SRM

Maris otter 4.42kg
Special roast 340g
Victory 227g
Crystal 40L 227g
Pale Choc 113g

Bitter to 25IBUs

Use Danstar Nottingham if you use dry yeast.