I had same issue. Set it up last night around 11pm and laid it horizontal on the bench. Put it in a brew this afternoon around 5:30pm. When I logged on to the portal I saw it had been transmitting through the night and day. It gave me one reading from my brew but nothing since. Did you find out why yours didn't go to sleep when laid horizontally?
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professional_drunk
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First time user of the pill.
I normally set my temp control probe to measure the air inside the fridge. Now that I have the pill to tell me what the actual temp inside the fermenter is, I've found I need to set my temp controller to 0.5c less than what I'm targetting so that the temp inside the fermenter matches my target temperature.
I pitched the pill as I was filling my all rounder, but that may have been a mistake. I noticed some gunk adhered to the pill and it's measuring 7 points higher than what my refracto says. Next time I think I'll try letting the fermenter settle for a while before pitching the pill.
I normally set my temp control probe to measure the air inside the fridge. Now that I have the pill to tell me what the actual temp inside the fermenter is, I've found I need to set my temp controller to 0.5c less than what I'm targetting so that the temp inside the fermenter matches my target temperature.
I pitched the pill as I was filling my all rounder, but that may have been a mistake. I noticed some gunk adhered to the pill and it's measuring 7 points higher than what my refracto says. Next time I think I'll try letting the fermenter settle for a while before pitching the pill.
FrankD
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Just bought RAPT pill can't get the damn thing to register, why is it so complicated, it should be idiot proof, maybe I'm an idiot?
Malchizedec
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Hi Razz, the issue then becomes recording your fermentation progress on the same chart.
I've suggested to Kegland that they shoukd add the ability for users to:
- Set the fermentation start date/time
- Set the initial gravity reading
- Alter fermentation readings
While I'm sure these features are needed the initial support guys didn't seem too keen stating the features weren't needed.
Hopefully the community gets them to change their mind.
I've suggested to Kegland that they shoukd add the ability for users to:
- Set the fermentation start date/time
- Set the initial gravity reading
- Alter fermentation readings
While I'm sure these features are needed the initial support guys didn't seem too keen stating the features weren't needed.
Hopefully the community gets them to change their mind.
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brm1952
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Don't worry FrankD you are not alone. It took me ages to get it working, you need to follow all the steps in order as laid out in the instructions. I have found I have some hitch in that when I log onto the Rapt Cloud, initially I get a blank screen, then if I refresh the graph comes up. I have it working well now although as the developer has stated gravity is only an approximate value and you should still take manual readings. I also rely on my Inkbird located in thermowell in the centre of the wort for accurate temp readings.
Mysticbrewer
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I have found that starting the process on a mobile device to direct connect and then completing it on a desktop is easiest, I cant get my PC to connect to the pill or couldn't when I set my first one up but have no issues with my mobile accessing the pill. And as said by others, follow the instructions precisely and make sure the data input when linking is accurate
Malchizedec
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I have 4 Pills, mine occasionally wake up while in the horizontal position due to vibrations or bumps.
To get a useful graph I have suggested a manual or software based switch as well as the ability to tell the control panel when you are actually fermenting (brew start and end date/time settings)
Lets see if they make it onto the feature list.
Mysticbrewer
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if you have not lodge your suggestion on the git hub page, found on the rapt FB group, at least then others can indicate interest and maybe it will be implemented.
Malchizedec
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I certainly did Razz, If any further explanation is required I am more than happy to have the discussion.
Malchizedec
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Appreciated Mysticbrewer, would you mind sharing the link here as I am not on FB?
Thanks
You already can. Press the Start Profile button (The one that looks like a triangle) this resets the graph for that session. At the end of fermentation. Press the stop button.
Malchizedec
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Hi Vic, I noticed they added this feature after my request (not claiming responsibility for it
)The other requests were the ability to:
- set the starting telemetry (temp, gravity... etc)
- change the telemetry during the fermentation
- change the Pill telemetry sample time from the default 60 minutes
- provide a hardware or software switch to turn the Pill off
- Provide the name of the batch, current telemetry when the brew panel is collapsed (in the portal)
Hi Vic, I noticed they added this feature after my request (not claiming responsibility for it
The other requests were the ability to:
- set the starting telemetry (temp, gravity... etc)
- change the telemetry during the fermentation
- change the Pill telemetry sample time from the default 60 minutes
- provide a hardware or software switch to turn the Pill off
- Provide the name of the batch, current telemetry when the brew panel is collapsed (in the portal)
Thanks for this. some of these changes are in the pipeline. We have started to manage feature requests here:
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If you have any further feature requests please post them to this GitLab board and they will be considered accordingly.
As we have quite a lot of new features being added I would just make sure to check for firmware updates regularly so you can take advantage of these updates.
Can you please confirm you are on the latest firmware. Also can you send us a screen shot of what you can see.
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Holy Moses this thing is a mongrel to custom calibrate. Loading in a polynomial equation gives numbers that are reversed.
I have 12 gravity readings from 1000 to 1096 with angles from about 29.6 to 70 something. The polynomial curve ever so slightly s-shaped.
Yet water reads 1.072...
And if I change the polynomial to a different degree I end up with -3.71 or something.
It's just infuriating.
I have a list of gravities and angles. It shouldn't be this hard.
Why can't KL stick something on app.rapt.io so that you can paste your values into an automatic calculator or something, and have it spit out an equation?
I have 12 gravity readings from 1000 to 1096 with angles from about 29.6 to 70 something. The polynomial curve ever so slightly s-shaped.
Yet water reads 1.072...
And if I change the polynomial to a different degree I end up with -3.71 or something.
It's just infuriating.
I have a list of gravities and angles. It shouldn't be this hard.
Why can't KL stick something on app.rapt.io so that you can paste your values into an automatic calculator or something, and have it spit out an equation?
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Grok I don't need to say anything, as Grmblz always said wait until version 4 is available.LOL, where is WEAL when you need him.......
clickeral
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Ordered one of these as ill take a punt on the early release as I typically use refractometers anyway, going to be getting a Milwaukee Refract soon as well so will just use this as a guide.
Already have thermowells in all my vessels for temp readings.
Just mainly wanting to make sure that the brews are finished, had one brew that I thought was done but had just stalled recently so making sure I take more care on some of my recipe dev brews
Already have thermowells in all my vessels for temp readings.
Just mainly wanting to make sure that the brews are finished, had one brew that I thought was done but had just stalled recently so making sure I take more care on some of my recipe dev brews
Y-y-your ALIVE!!!!! Praise the Brew Gods
and cheers to you
Yes, version 4 sounds about right!
clickeral
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Should the calibration be done at any specific temp? Did tap water orginally for my 1.000 reading and then a 1.050 sugar water solution that was alot warmer.
I reduced the sample dkwn to 1.025 and the pill was out reading 1.018
Adjusted my 1.000 reading to be done at same temp as thre 1.025 sample. May need to look at the custim calibration range option's
I reduced the sample dkwn to 1.025 and the pill was out reading 1.018
Adjusted my 1.000 reading to be done at same temp as thre 1.025 sample. May need to look at the custim calibration range option's
I’ve found there is a bit of a lag in the Kegland Pills reading correct temperature I’ve always done calibration where the water is at room temp (same temp as the pill itself).
So far getting better gravity seatings than the Tilt off a simple calibration (tap water) being patient to get a stable reading.
So far getting better gravity seatings than the Tilt off a simple calibration (tap water) being patient to get a stable reading.
cybermilisav
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Can't get new validation code for re registration, probably because I deleted my account. Also no telemetry was sent, I thought deleting account and starting again would help. When rapt cloud is closed, every next time when trying to connect I get error 500. In user manual there is a mention of clear registration button, I don't have that option in pill portal under registration. Is there any other option to get new validation code?
Can you please give write down your pill MAC address and then give us a call and we will sort this out over the phone for you. Ideally if you are within wifi range and the pill is fully charged when we start this process that would be preferable.
cybermilisav
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An update, everything is working now, just was a bad moment for first setup, yesterday there was some problem with database.
Yes sorry about that outage yesterday. This will hopefully not happen again in future.
Let us know if you have any other issues.
Cian Doyle
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After reading about problems with the Pill, not only on here but other sites I have opted for the German made Bluetooth & WiFi floating hydrometer. So easy to set up too only $100.
https://hydrom.io/
https://hydrom.io/
