RAPT Pill

[-Ian-]

Do you have to pay for the monthly subscription fee or do you get full control of the device set temp using the phone app?

Full control - no subscription. They sell various beer packs that include an rfid tag you swipe against the machine which programs the unit for the particular style of beer you’re brewing. But you can make your own recipes as well if you have ‘Master mode’. This is a rfid tag that unlocks the ability to do as you want. My unit came with this included but it’s an optional extra if buying today.

 

[rockofclay]

Hey Beefcake. What fermentation pressures were you using?

As you know we use two silicone o-rings on the pill hydrometer. Silicone is a great o-ring material as it's got good spring properties and is fairly chemically resistant. One of the issues with silicone is that it has high gas transmission rate meaning both oxygen and co2 and other gasses can pass through the silicone.

When the fermenter is under pressure CO2 gradually seeps into the pill housing through the o-rings. From our testing this is fine and has not significant impact to the accuracy but if the gas in the pill gets too great and then all of a sudden the external atmosphere drops in pressure(ie you open the all rounder lid) the gas cannot be released out of the pill housing fast enough and this can cause the pill housing to pop open. From our experience this is extremly rare and the only time we have heard of this is when customers are fermenting at higher than recommended pressures. Generally speaking we recommend fermenting at about 2-10psi. If the fermenter is at an elevated pressure (above 20psi) for a long time (several weeks) this CO2 can ingress into the housing and cause this issue.

I should not that there are benefits to fermenting at low pressures but pressures above 10psi have a negative effect on the yeast so there is no reason to really be fermenting at higher pressures than 10psi.

One thing we have been considering is changing the o-rings in the pill to EPDM as EPDM has about 30times lower gas transmission rate than silicone.
If you dont mind me asking what pressure was the fermenter at prior to opening up the lid.

If you purchase the Pill from us please contact our customer service team and we will supply you with a free replacement.

Any info on the development of these?

Wouldn't the have the opposite problem to the silicone rings? The silicone rings pop because there is 10psi differential (pill is high pressure) when the fermenter is cracked.

Wouldn't the O-rings simply fail in the opposite direction, as now the differential will be the same but opposite direction? The fermenter is 10psi and the pill is 0 psi?

Or is it more about how quickly the differential is applied.

 

[Dustie]

Sorry if this has been asked before. In the last couple of days both S.G. and A.B.V. on my chart have become a straight line. I at first suspected the problem was in the cloud as I noticed the same losses in all my previous saved brews and expected it to come back, but hasn't. Both on the chart running at the moment, and in my previous charts all of the S.G. and A.B.V. have gone to a straight line. The S.G. line seems to show the correct information if you scroll along it with the mouse, but the A.B.V. just shows 100%. Temp is still reading and updating as per normal every hour. Any ideas and thanks in advance.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Sorry if this has been asked before. In the last couple of days both S.G. and A.B.V. on my chart have become a straight line. I at first suspected the problem was in the cloud as I noticed the same losses in all my previous saved brews and expected it to come back, but hasn't. Both on the chart running at the moment, and in my previous charts all of the S.G. and A.B.V. have gone to a straight line. The S.G. line seems to show the correct information if you scroll along it with the mouse, but the A.B.V. just shows 100%. Temp is still reading and updating as per normal every hour. Any ideas and thanks in advance.

Have you tried using one of these?

 

[Dustie]

Have you tried using one of these?
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everyone has one of these, but can't see it in the fermenter when under pressure.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

everyone has one of these, but can't see it in the fermenter when under pressure.

Well, they aren't used in the fermenter; they are used for the SG and FG when finished. They would be a lot more accurate than what you are using now.