Politics

[browndog]

Hopefully the Honorable Scott Driscoll will be spending some time with Gordon Nuttall in the near future.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

nice one, Tony.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/spying-scandal-australian-flags-burnt-as-protests-heat-up-in-indonesia-20131121-2xx9k.html

 

[TasChris]

nice one, Tony.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/spying-scandal-australian-flags-burnt-as-protests-heat-up-in-indonesia-20131121-2xx9k.html

Hmm they are complaining about phone taps in 2009...When Labor was in power.

Australia should not be explaining our intelligence collection to any one especially Indonesia

 

[Black Devil Dog]

nice one, Tony.

Hahaha.....funny joke.......you are joking right?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Hmm they are complaining about phone taps in 2009...When Labor was in power.

I actually got a bit of a chuckle when that surfaced. Labour handing over a ticking bomb.

Fuckem. They both play the same games on each other.

 

[Black Devil Dog]

A bit of balance required, some people seem to have short selective memories.

Compare the different reactions between when Indonesia were caught spying on Australia and the recent spying "scandal".

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Just a case of being busted stealing cookies from the jar. Everyone has had there hand in the jar

 

[Black Devil Dog]

Just a case of being busted stealing cookies from the jar. Everyone has had there hand in the jar

Too right, just the volume of squealing from those who have a culture of "saving face" that is the difference.

 

[OzPaleAle]

Bunch of sooks, the real international issue is that my Rolex I got in Bali stopped working after a month, wheres my national outrage.

 

[goomboogo]

Bunch of sooks, the real international issue is that my Rolex I got in Bali stopped working after a month, wheres my national outrage.

Stop the clocks. Oh, that's already happened.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

On the face of it, that joke was second hand.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

Too right, just the volume of squealing from those who have a culture of "saving face" that is the difference.

That's exactly it.

The phone tapping itself wasn't really the issue, it's the way Tone handled it. Instead of contacting Yudhoyono directly behind closed doors and trying to work something out, he got up in our parliament and essentially said "yeah big whoop everyone does it mate" - just in time to make the Indonesian headline news. Now everyone there thinks Australia's new PM is a dick, so regardless of what the president thinks, his hands are tied and he has lost whatever public support there was for his backing of Australia.
I said "nice one, Tony" because he simultaneously set our relationship with Indo back to the Timor days, and scuttled (excuse the pun) his 'boats' plan. Let's face it, diplomacy isn't his strong point.

 

[Black Devil Dog]

Putting the blame onto Abbot for this is such a crock'o'shite, he probably should have rung SBY, maybe he has, I don't know.

Indonesia have made themselves look very hypocritical in all of this, but they have a couple of aces and they're playing them.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

And play they will........considering there upcoming election.

As for Abbott..............

 

[Liam_snorkel]

Indonesia have made themselves look very hypocritical in all of this, but they have a couple of aces and they're playing them.

"They" as in the Indo goverment? Or the knuckle heads burning flags and threatening to blow up our embassy?

It was an entirely predictable response and our PM should have been a bit wiser, for his own sake. Nothing much will come of it, he's just made things harder for himself really.

 

[manticle]

I thought you were talking to Browndog (whose name is tony)

 

[browndog]

I thought you were talking to Browndog (whose name is tony)

Shhhh.........I'm trying to stay under cover here.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

:lol:

 

[WarmBeer]

Australia's new PM is a dick

 

[Liam_snorkel]

had to have a chuckle at this. Caption of the week:

for those living under an internet rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r21CMDyPuGo