Pigs Fly Pale Ale Clone ?

[Uncle Fester]

All,
I had the good fortune to try a few Pigs Fly Pale Ales at my brother - in - law's wedding in Mittagong.

I immediately thought it would be a beer I would try to have a crack at cloning.

The good brewers at Pigs Fly have a tasting note for the PFPA, which gives a fair idea of the schedule.

A copy is attached (I hope) to this post.

Here is my attempt at a clone. Comments please. :beer:

Fester.




Pigs Arse Pale Ale


Type: All Grain
Date: 12/03/2007
Batch Size: 22.00 L
Brewer: Uncle Fester
Boil Size: 26.49 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU

3.00 kg Golden Promise Ale Malt Grain 65.2 %
1.00 kg Vienna Malt Grain 21.7 %
0.50 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine Grain 10.9 %
0.10 kg Crystal Malt Grain 2.2 %

8.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (60 min) Hops 11.1 IBU
7.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (30 min) Hops 7.5 IBU
10.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (15 min) Hops 6.9 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (15 min) Hops 3.4 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (5 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (0 min) Hops -


1 Pkgs Nottingham Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.3 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.6 %
Bitterness: 30.3 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 13.0 EBC Color: Color

View attachment pigsfly.paleale.pdf

 

[Steve]

Thanks for that UF. I occasionally buy a six pack from my local liquor
Steve

 

[Cortez The Killer]

I've tried this beer a couple of times and it's quiet good

Please keep us posted with results

I am keen to make something along the same lines

Cheers

 

[Uncle Fester]

I'm not too sure about the 500g of Carapils. Thinking of maybe dropping that back to 200g, and adding another 500g of either Ale or maybe Pilsner malt ???

Fess.

 

[jayse]

I remember drinking one of these before and now I wish I remembered it. The time I drank it I had already consumed enough beer for 15 men
Anyway what you have there looks pretty nice so i'd go with it and work on it from there.

 

[Cortez The Killer]

Did you end up having a crack at this one Uncle Fester?

 

[Uncle Fester]

Did you end up having a crack at this one Uncle Fester?

Maybe

From my memory of the orginal it tastes pretty close. Will do a side-by side blind test this weekend.

Festa

 

[Steve]

I went for a six pack tonight and they were all out.....i might have to give your recipe a go UF.
Cheers
Steve

 

[joshuahardie]

Uncle Fester,

Any reports on how this one came back..

This beer is one of my favourte session beers.

I think I should have a crack at it myself.....

 

[Uncle Fester]

Uncle Fester,

Any reports on how this one came back..

This beer is one of my favourte session beers.

I think I should have a crack at it myself.....

To quote the great Rex Hunt...

Maaaaagnificent! Gave it to another brewer who thought it one of the best beers he had ever tried

I rated it an equal with the Nelson Sauvin Ale.


Have a dip and let me know.

Steve, were you game?




Cheers,

Fester.

 

[Steve]

To quote the great Rex Hunt...

Maaaaagnificent! Gave it to another brewer who thought it one of the best beers he had ever tried

I rated it an equal with the Nelson Sauvin Ale.
Have a dip and let me know.

Steve, were you game?
Cheers,

Fester.

not got around to it yet....its on my to do list.
Cheers
Steve

 

[joshuahardie]

I am still floundering in extracts at the moment.

What sort of concentrated wort do you think would be suit this style of beer.
some sort of unhopped ale??? and some LME?

The hops and yeast specifics should not be a problem.

 

[AUHEAMIC]

I'm not too sure about the 500g of Carapils. Thinking of maybe dropping that back to 200g, and adding another 500g of either Ale or maybe Pilsner malt ???

Fess.

Hi Fester

Did you decide with carapils?

Peels

 

[bconnery]

I am still floundering in extracts at the moment.

What sort of concentrated wort do you think would be suit this style of beer.
some sort of unhopped ale??? and some LME?

The hops and yeast specifics should not be a problem.

Your best bet would be just some light LME or DME with a little steeped carapils and crystal. Say 250g carapils and 100g crystal.

They will be made using a plain ale malt I would guess, and vienna and golden promise both bring different characters, but it will be your best bet I think.

One of the morgans tins might help, they list what base grains are used in them so you could look at that to get some ideas...

 

[joshuahardie]

Your best bet would be just some light LME or DME with a little steeped carapils and crystal. Say 250g carapils and 100g crystal.

They will be made using a plain ale malt I would guess, and vienna and golden promise both bring different characters, but it will be your best bet I think.

One of the morgans tins might help, they list what base grains are used in them so you could look at that to get some ideas...

That sounds like a really good starting point... Ill give that, or something very similar a try.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Hi Fester

Did you decide with carapils?

Peels

Peels,

Being the lazy ******* that I am, I left the recipe as planned.



Fester.

 

[revdrjbob]

I'm pretty sure , from speaking to the brewers, that this beer is a hell olf a lot simpler than you've got recipe wise. I think it's just pils, 5% crystal, chinook for bittering then an arse load of Cascades for aroma. Simple and easy, great tasting brew too.

TIM

 

[Uncle Fester]

I'm pretty sure , from speaking to the brewers, that this beer is a hell olf a lot simpler than you've got recipe wise. I think it's just pils, 5% crystal, chinook for bittering then an arse load of Cascades for aroma. Simple and easy, great tasting brew too.

TIM

As previously stated, I'm lazy. Easier is better!

Will have to give the simpler version a go. Their flyer indicates "Pale" malt, which I construed as Ale malt.

Will place this one on the "To Do" list. Unfortunately the to do list grows faster than the "Done" list

Fester.

 

[Uncle Fester]

OK Trendsetters... I have had a second dip at this beer.. h34r:


Here's the recipe:

Pigs Arse Pale Ale II

Type: All Grain
Date: 12/03/2007
Batch Size: 22.00 L
Brewer: Uncle Fester
Boil Size: 26.49 L Asst Brewer: Filthy Hobbit
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 77.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.3 EBC) Grain 63.8 %
1.00 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 21.3 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt, Bel (3.9 EBC) Grain 10.6 %
0.10 kg Caraaroma (256.1 EBC) Grain 2.1 %
0.10 kg Caramunich Malt (110.3 EBC) Grain 2.1 %
15.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (60 min) Hops 20.4 IBU
10.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (20 min) Hops 8.2 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (20 min) Hops 6.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (7 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 20.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs US-56 Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.2%
Bitterness: 36.6 IBU Calories: 459 cal/l
Est Color: 17.9 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 4.70 kg

This time it has come out even better than the first.


Anyone else tried to have a go at this one? STEVE??

(I PROMISE to try the simpler version next time!)

Festa.

 

[Steve]

OK Trendsetters... I have had a second dip at this beer.. h34r:
Here's the recipe:

Pigs Arse Pale Ale II

Type: All Grain
Date: 12/03/2007
Batch Size: 22.00 L
Brewer: Uncle Fester
Boil Size: 26.49 L Asst Brewer: Filthy Hobbit
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 77.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.3 EBC) Grain 63.8 %
1.00 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 21.3 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt, Bel (3.9 EBC) Grain 10.6 %
0.10 kg Caraaroma (256.1 EBC) Grain 2.1 %
0.10 kg Caramunich Malt (110.3 EBC) Grain 2.1 %
15.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (60 min) Hops 20.4 IBU
10.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (20 min) Hops 8.2 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (20 min) Hops 6.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (7 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 20.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs US-56 Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.2%
Bitterness: 36.6 IBU Calories: 459 cal/l
Est Color: 17.9 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 4.70 kg

This time it has come out even better than the first.
Anyone else tried to have a go at this one? STEVE??

(I PROMISE to try the simpler version next time!)

Festa.

I'll print this out and give it a go. I made something similar last weekend. Had another six pack of this last night - very nice.
Cheers
Steve