Over complicated grain bill?

[TheWiggman]

That bill is as complicated as the measurement system used to determine the quantities.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

http://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/imperial-stout/

you tried this?

Have you tried this

Pillar Of Stout

4.4 kg BB Ale Malt

0.34 kg JWM Roast Barley

0.15 kg JWM Chocolate Malt

0.15 kg Weyermann Carafa Special I

0.1 kg TF Black Malt
Hops

34 g Pride of Ringwood (Pellet, 9.0AA%, 60mins)

30 g Pride of Ringwood (Pellet, 9.0AA%, 20mins)
Yeast

150 ml Danstar - Nottingham

 

[Yob]

That's 5 right?

 

[Chridech]

Was looking for inspiration for a recipe for an IPA which includes amarillo hops as I've a few of them at the moment. Found this one:

http://beerrecipes.org/showrecipe.php?recipeid=7688#sthash.mIoxDYVi.dpbs

Grain bill looks like:

• 8 lbs - Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 2 lbs 8.0 oz - Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 2 lbs 8.0 oz - Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) (Grain)
• 8.0 oz - Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 8.0 oz - Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 4.0 oz - Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 4.0 oz - Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 4.0 oz - Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) (Grain)
• 4.0 oz - Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) (Grain)

While I'm still pretty new to this, I honestly can't see the benefit of including so many different kinds of grain. Immediately, the carapils seems to duplicate what the wheat malt is doing. Is the drinker going to be able to pick up the nuances of all these different grains? Particularly when you've got all these hops in it as well:

• 0.5 oz - Horizon [12.0%] - Boil 75 min (Hops)
• 0.5 oz - Nugget [13.0%] - Boil 60 min (Hops)
• 0.6 oz - Amarillo Gold [9.8%] - Boil 30 min (Hops)
• 1.0 oz - Amarillo Gold [9.8%] - Boil 10 min (Hops)
• 1.5 oz - Amarillo Gold [9.8%] - Boil 5 min (Hops)
• 2.0 oz - Amarillo Gold [9.8%] - Boil 0 min (Hops)

Or maybe they will. That's my question! Why would someone include so many different types of grain for an IPA?

Do you think they just included every left over grain bag dreg they had in the cupboard?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

That's 5 right?

I think so, let me count them agian

 

[Adr_0]

That's 5 right?

Not too bad - only 1 or 2 more than recommended.

 

[Mattrox]

I hear the Stone and Wood Stone Ale has a very complicated gain bill.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Not too bad - only 1 or 2 more than recommended.

You could ditch the RB and just use all Carafa

 

[manticle]

Only time a grain bill like that is worthwhile is if you're making a Belgian dubbel or something. Even then, it's a bit over the top.

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Belgian beers can be made super simply. A dubbel can be as simple as base + 1 spec (or even none) + the right coloured sugar.

Yeast obviously is key.

I'm sure you know this but just felt it was worth highlighting.

 

[Adr_0]

You could ditch the RB and just use all Carafa

I would never do such a thing to my delicious roast barley!

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

That's 5 right?

Well....Black Patent malt isnt really malt. Its basically bits of charcoal

 

[Adr_0]

Well....Black Patent malt isnt really malt. Its basically bits of charcoal

So it's really just three malts. That's more like it!

Now, back on topic.....