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[kymba]

Beewing is so much more fun to do with someone... even if they do fuckall and just comment on ****.

haha true - it's like when women get together and...talk?

chookers, if you want to try the braid without valves and putting holes n **** in your pot, you can weasel it over a standard copper capillary elbow, so you could jam that elbow into some silicon hose, or onto another bit of copper, clamp that to your pot so you don't disturb the grain bed and siphon it out

i vote that you do both and then tell us how easy it was with the bag

 

[Chookers]

Dude, BIAB is dead simple, dont escalate it into something its not. Where are you in Sydney ? If you want to come around over the holiday break, I'll cut a piece of voile up(BribieG styles), we'll do a brew, get 85% extraction efficiency, and you'll go "****, that was nothing to examine to death" and youll see how basic the method really is.

Silo Ted, thank you for your kind offer.. but I will decline. You are right, yes I am examining it to death.. (and then I will resurrect it and examine it some more.) But I will also do as Maltyhops advises and go the BIAB way and if I then move to the manifold will use the voile for hop bags..

Practicalfool, cotton voile?? where'd you get that? I would like to get some.


Cheers guys, thanks for putting up with me and the great advice you keep giving.

 

[pk.sax]

Lincraft. It's all they had.

 

[Chookers]

That batch of Nelson Sauvin Summer ale, still has not cleared.. I have checked the S.G and it is stable at 1008. But the yeast is still hanging around. How can I make the yeast drop out.

And if I get the yeast out will the flavour improve because currently tastes bloody awful..

 

[Spork]

Gelatine (search it on here) and cold (I like -1c). Pref. both, but either / or should help.

 

[Chookers]

Gelatine (search it on here) and cold (I like -1c). Pref. both, but either / or should help.

-1 deg, you mean put it in the freezer??

I could rack onto some gelatine and put in the fridge or freezer.

 

[manticle]

Don't put it in the freezer. Put it in the fridge on the coldest setting and leave it for a week.

If you use gelatin, make sure you dissolve it in hot water first.

 

[the_new_darren]

Welcome to the obsession

cheers

tnd

 

[Chookers]

Don't put it in the freezer. Put it in the fridge on the coldest setting and leave it for a week.

If you use gelatin, make sure you dissolve it in hot water first.

okay, I got the McKenzie's Edible Gelatine, I hope thats good enough.. I'll mix it with the hot water then rack on to it. and put it in the fridge as you suggest.

I used US-05 is this a problem yeast?? I will use something else next time.

 

[kelbygreen]

thats what I got but never used it. I also got isinglass from CB and used 3 times I didnt see much difference. But you gotto use it on a half moon at 4:30am with a SE blowing and the cat perched on your head to do it right (well so it seems ) bought a filter and dont bother with any of it its quicker to filter then to stuff around with finings

 

[manticle]

okay, I got the McKenzie's Edible Gelatine, I hope thats good enough.. I'll mix it with the hot water then rack on to it. and put it in the fridge as you suggest.

I used US-05 is this a problem yeast?? I will use something else next time.

I stopped using post fermentation finings a while ago and now use only cold and time. When I used gelatin finings, I usually used a supermarket version. I have intentions of doig some side by side observations using supermarket gelatin, catering 'leaf' gelatin, HBS gelatin finings, isinglass, cold and just time but have no idea when I'll get around to it.

Loads of people use it anyway.

As for 05 - sometimes it can hang around without encouragement but my experience of it when you brew it coolish and give it time to condition is that it is a good go to neutral yeast. It is the only dry beer yeast I use - all other yeasts I use are liquid.

 

[Muscovy_333]

Silo Ted, thank you for your kind offer.. but I will decline. You are right, yes I am examining it to death.. (and then I will resurrect it and examine it some more.) But I will also do as Maltyhops advises and go the BIAB way and if I then move to the manifold will use the voile for hop bags..

Practicalfool, cotton voile?? where'd you get that? I would like to get some.


Cheers guys, thanks for putting up with me and the great advice you keep giving.

Spotlight do swiss voille as well. (get the plain white, not the coloured stuff)

Cheap as chips, Gods own contribution to HB. Great stuff!

 

[kelbygreen]

isnt it polyester voile??? proper swiss voile is cotton but cost 20x the price!! I know 98% recommended poly when I used it but maybe they have expensive taste now

 

[bignath]

That batch of Nelson Sauvin Summer ale, still has not cleared.. I have checked the S.G and it is stable at 1008. But the yeast is still hanging around. How can I make the yeast drop out.

And if I get the yeast out will the flavour improve because currently tastes bloody awful..

Chookers, what was the recipe mate?

When you say 'bloody awful'?........

 

[Flewy]

was it the hop bits that were the only issue??


I could add the hop teas 2days before racking onto the priming sugar..

No, it wasn't the only issue. Because of the extra residue, there were more nucleation points and it appeared overcarbonated, and gushed everywhere. 2 days before racking should be plenty.

I want a permanent setup though I will only ever be doing small half batches 11-14L.

Somebody please remind Chookers of this when he's looking for a 90L stainless kettle one day

Flewy

 

[Chookers]

Chookers, what was the recipe mate?

When you say 'bloody awful'?........

its the one on the recipe database, Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale.. but I scaled it down.. and boiled it too much I suppose because I ended up with 6.5L instead of 11L I was aiming for.. I cant remember the numbers off the top of my head but I think I posted them at the start of this threat.. I think the O.G of the 6.5L was 1.060 and I added 2L of boiled water and got it to 1.045.. my numbers could be off.. I also made a mix of 2L boiled water and enough LDME to match the S.G, and added that to bring the total to bring it closer to 11L.
I covered with cling wrap and kept it in a styrofoam box with ice bottles to keep temp between 18 & 20 deg, it was two weeks last Tuesday, and I have checked the s.g for three days it is now 1.008 and stable, but with alot of suspended yeast. We tasted the samples each time we tested the s.g and everyone said it tastes kinda like raw dough, yeasty..

 

[bignath]

Hmmm not sure exactly what the problem is to pin point it. Its most likely (in my opinion) a combination of all those variables when the brewday didnt quite go to plan.
Did you pitch the whole yeast pack into your half batch? Would explain extra sediment i 'spose...

NS is an amazing hop (in my top two) but you do need to be careful with it. Ive found the slightest difference n balance throughout the recipe or a change in efficiency can have massive consequences when using it. Its not a forgivingnhop at all. It responds well to a recipe that is completely dialled in for consistent results or else it will kick you in the arse.
As a said, thats what ive found, and ive used this hop A LOT.

 

[Chookers]

Hmmm not sure exactly what the problem is to pin point it. Its most likely (in my opinion) a combination of all those variables when the brewday didnt quite go to plan.
Did you pitch the whole yeast pack into your half batch? Would explain extra sediment i 'spose...

NS is an amazing hop (in my top two) but you do need to be careful with it. Ive found the slightest difference n balance throughout the recipe or a change in efficiency can have massive consequences when using it. Its not a forgivingnhop at all. It responds well to a recipe that is completely dialled in for consistent results or else it will kick you in the arse.
As a said, thats what ive found, and ive used this hop A LOT.

yes I thought I may have issues with NS even before I started so I under hopped, I was aiming for lower bitterness. The bitterness level is okay, there is not much flavour or aroma due to my using only 5g per hop addition and cutting out the last one entirly. but even with my messing the hops around it does not explain the yeasty beasties...I think they are the culprits for the off flavours.