Nelson Sauvin

[Steve]

Thanks Steve :super: I made your lager from the recipes above and it's BLOODY FANTASTIC [sorry for shouting] :unsure:
I used the Swiss Lager yeast from Ross and fermented it at 10c,a rest when done, kegged and into CC [well it is a lager] can't wait to put this one on tap.
It's a winner.

Good news Bindi.
Cheers
Steve

 

[browndog]

Good news Bindi.
Cheers
Steve

Hey Steve, what temp did you ferment the lager at using the nottingham?

cheers

Browndog

 

[Steve]

Hey Steve, what temp did you ferment the lager at using the nottingham?

cheers

Browndog

I brewed it at ale temps....I was in a hurry for beer! :chug:

 

[bindi]

Ditto
Yet to taste a beer I like brewed with this hop,all about personal tastes hey?

Batz

:lol: I hear some people don't like wheat beers also personal tastes hey?

 

[Batz]

:lol: I hear some people don't like wheat beers also personal tastes hey?

Batz

 

[Steve]

My Nelsons Bastard Ale seems to be going down very well in the NSW Xmas Case Swap.....definately doing this one again.

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=396

Cheers
Steve

 

[milpod]

Looks like a nice drop Steve,will have to give it a go.I needed an excuse to give Nottingham a try

 

[Jazman]

Im with Post modern on this and not to over do the late additions or ns but wortk swell with a few other hops

 

[roger mellie]

I love this hop. If there were only 3 hops it would be this D Saaz and EKG.

I have messed with the recipe - late/early/more less it matters little - this hop is a star performer at the Fulchester.

In the mash tun as we speak -

Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 14/12/2007
Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter Brewer: Roger Mellie
Batch Size: 23.00 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 31.20 L Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 % Equipment: Keg Kettle

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 90.9 %
0.50 kg Wheat, Torrified (3.3 EBC) Grain 9.1 %
15.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [11.00%] (60 min) Hops 16.0 IBU
15.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [11.00%] (20 min) Hops 9.7 IBU
20.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [11.00%] (5 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
15.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [11.00%] (60 min) (Mash Hop) Hops 3.2 IBU
25.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [11.00%] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1.00 tsp Table Salt (Boil 90.0 min) Misc
12.15 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Boil 90.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs US-56 (Safale)

Big Weekend - One today and 2 tomorrow hopefully - Ducati Stu's Stout and a Roggenbier.

All ready in time for mass consumption at Xmas.

Beers

RM

 

[milpod]

Hi Roger,what affect are you after using torrified, as opposed to malted wheat in this recipe?

Just curious,as I only use torrified in my wits now.

Cheers

 

[roger mellie]

Hi Roger,what affect are you after using torrified, as opposed to malted wheat in this recipe?

Just curious,as I only use torrified in my wits now.

Cheers

TBH - I brought half a bag of it - and I won another bag of Wheat in a comp a while ago

So I thought I would use it up.

It was in the original recipe that I plaigerised from Ross and found it gave outstanding head and a very sticky lace - I have deviated and used normal wheat - with good results also.

I made a wit with it - wasnt that fussed actually (from memory) - still got 8KG left so might try again one day.

RM

 

[milpod]

Thanks,no worries,thought as much.

I know Ross dropped it from his grain bill in favour of malted wheat.

Always curious

 

[roger mellie]

Thanks,no worries,thought as much.

I know Ross dropped it from his grain bill in favour of malted wheat.

Always curious

Like I said - I experimented with both Malted wheat and TW.

The original NSSA also had a Mash Hop - which I think he also dropped - I have brought it back into all my brews.

And a spoonful of table salt.

Works for me

RM

 

[dr K]

It is a strange hop, just one you need to get used to I guess. Knappstein uses it to great effect and the 2006 Hop Thief was a really good. I tasted some at a friends place (he used NS and Pac Hall in this beer) and the beer was quite wonderfull, I used the same schedule in a similar beer and whilst it was nice, fell short of wonderfull.
Used in the wrong proportions though it seems to muddy the flavours a bit...I tasted a commercial beer, apparently an Irish Red earlier this year which I was told may have used NS, along with Pac Hall and B Saaz, there seemed to be some sort of fight going on between the NS and the BS, perhaps thats what gave its slightly metallic even blood like character (cold it was fine, it was the warming that did it), though I doubt it, I suspect it was something else, my gingivitis perhaps. :wub: :wub:
Anyway..great hop..use with caution, anyone who has some tested suggestions...let me know, I was given a bag and would like to use it well.

K

 

[browndog]

Here is my first effort with NS in an ale. The 50G addition at the end of the boil didn't seem to have the dramatic effect I thought it would. Turned out to be a well received beer that I can sit on all night.


BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Nelson Sauvin Ale
Brewer: Tony Brown
Asst Brewer: Jess
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 24.00 L
Boil Size: 32.79 L
Estimated OG: 1.057 SG
Estimated Color: 9.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 38.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.9 EBC) Grain 90.91 %
0.25 kg AA Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 4.55 %
0.25 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (39.4 EBC) Grain 4.55 %
20.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] (35 min) Hops 20.8 IBU
20.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] (15 min) Hops 12.5 IBU
20.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
50.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.20 %] (0 min) (Aroma HoHops -
0.50 tsp Koppafloc (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs US-56 (Safale) [Starter 200 ml] Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 5.50 kg
----------------------------
Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Mash In Add 14.35 L of water at 72.2 C 62.0 C


cheers

Browndog

 

[milpod]

dr K,for a lovely summer session ale,I ibu as follows:

5kg base malt
.75 wheat
15g ns flowers(11.9%)@ 30 mins
15g ns flowers(11.9%)@ 20 mins
15g ns flowers(11.9%)@ 10 mins
15g ns flowers(11.9%)@ 00 mins

around 30 ibu's.

single mash @ 66 for 60 mins
mash out for 10 mins.

Easy drinking,but i'm a NS addict.

Bittering with another hop pearle/northern brewer would give a much more balanced beer.IMHO

 

[PostModern]

anyone who has some tested suggestions...let me know, I was given a bag and would like to use it well.

My house ale is 10% wheat malt, 90% Ale malt, 25IBU of bittering hop (Warrior, Pride Plus, Northern Brewer, Perle, whatever) and 1g/L of flavour/aroma pellets tossed into the whirlpool. The one I made with Warrior at 60mins and 20g of NS in the whirlpool was delish. I don't know how people can put 100g of this hop into one beer, it's just ott, imho. 20g gave a nice full amount of the hop without destroying the malt and yeast character.

 

[Ross]

Thanks,no worries,thought as much.

I know Ross dropped it from his grain bill in favour of malted wheat.

Always curious

The only reason I changed originally, was the torrified wheat was a bugger to put through the mill.
I found the malted wheat gave virtually the same result & hence stuck with it. Reckon i'll give the TW another run next Summer Ale.

cheers Ross

 

[browndog]

I don't know how people can put 100g of this hop into one beer, it's just ott, imho.

maybe our tastebuds are not as dainty as yours PM Megaswill drinkers have enjoyed the NS ale I did with 110G, and there is definitely no sweaty sock smells there, just a clean, crisp, hoppy beer.

cheers

Browndog

 

[dr K]

PM and Milpod
Thanks for your suggestions....my NS are in pellet form.
I tend to add hops to the whirlpool as well but at 3g/l.
Despite my reservations about a lot of NS (and PMs) I might just try MP all NS..its the only way to tell I guess, and if NS does muddy other hops, why not use 100%.
I may report back, but probably not....

K