Nelson Sauvin

[domonsura]

I just got a small pile of NS flowers in and opened the first bag yesterday...and I'm addicted....to the point that there's a little bag of flowers under my pillow (trouble sleeping .... ) woke up to the aroma of NS this morning
Doing my first brew with it tomorrow (an all NS Ale), & doing another using Green Bullet flowers for bittering and NS for aroma on Sunday. Looking forward to it, no other hop I have smelled so far comes even close to the smell from a fresh half kilo bag..... Now I understand what all the fuss is over.....

 

[milpod]

Dom ns and green bullet together ummmmmmm

 

[domonsura]

ummmmmmmmmmmmm good or ummmmmmmmmm bad? (I wasn't talking heavy bittering, just enough to provide some background for the NS...)

 

[milpod]

goooooood

 

[milpod]

Well we all know they can play rugby,but **** can they hop a beer on all 3 aspects

 

[beersom]

I I love the flavour & aroma from this hop but find it to be too coarse for bittering.

I would heartily disagree with this statement.
In fact to cut back on coarse bitterness in one of my beers I switched over to NS. The change was remarkable and I found I was able to up bittering from 28 to 31 IBU.

 

[Ross]

I would heartily disagree with this statement.
In fact to cut back on coarse bitterness in one of my beers I switched over to NS. The change was remarkable and I found I was able to up bittering from 28 to 31 IBU.

+1 - I find it a great bittering hop.

It's the late additions i keep a more careful check on these days - I did my NS summer ale recipe but switched all the additions to late & doubled the amount of hops - it had nowhere near the finese of the original & lost its balance, with exactly the same IBU's

Cheers Ross

 

[razz]

My latest recipe with NS, the summer ale was a great beer. This is clearing in the fermenter and should be kegged in about a weeks time. Tastes great so far.

Type: All Grain
Date: 30/10/2007
Batch Size: 42.00 L
Brewer: JD
Boil Size: 42.00 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 82.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 100.00 %
30.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.60 %] (60 min) Hops 21.0 IBU
60.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.60 %] (5 min) Hops 8.4 IBU
1.00 tsp koppafloc (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
20.00 gm PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
2 Pkgs SafLager German Lager (DCL Yeast #S-189) Yeast-Lager



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.049 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.009 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.65 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.74 %
Bitterness: 29.3 IBU Calories: 493 cal/l
Est Color: 6.5 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: My Mash Total Grain Weight: 8.00 kg
Sparge Water: 26.01 L Grain Temperature: 20.0 C
Sparge Temperature: 78.0 C TunTemperature: 20.0 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.2 PH

My Mash Step Time Name Description Step Temp
90 min Step Add 24.00 L of water at 71.3 C 65.5 C
15 min Mash out Heat to 76.0 C over 20 min 76.0 C



Mash Notes:
Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Kegged (Forced CO2) Volumes of CO2: 2.7
Pressure/Weight: 96.5 KPA Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 4.0 C Age for: 28.0 days
Storage Temperature: 4.0 C

 

[mfdes]

It's seriously excellent used as an all-late hop, added only in the last 30 minutes or less of the boil. Be prepared for a hop explosion though

MFS

 

[The King of Spain]

My latest recipe with NS, the summer ale was a great beer. This is clearing in the fermenter and should be kegged in about a weeks time. Tastes great so far.

Type: All Grain
Date: 30/10/2007
Batch Size: 42.00 L
Brewer: JD
Boil Size: 42.00 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 82.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 100.00 %
30.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.60 %] (60 min) Hops 21.0 IBU
60.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [12.60 %] (5 min) Hops 8.4 IBU
1.00 tsp koppafloc (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
20.00 gm PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
2 Pkgs SafLager German Lager (DCL Yeast #S-189) Yeast-Lager

Razz, How do you go with a single malt brew with head formation / retention? I'm going to do a brew very similar yours to use up some NS but would probably put in a little wheat. I've never done a single malt hence the question.

Cheers

 

[Steve]

I love this hop. I first tried it last year with Ross NS Ale. For me its a hop that had to grow on me. Originally I thought it smelt and tasted like sweaty socks. I put that down to drinking it far too early. I also made a lager with it (ala Knappstein Lager) which turned out very tasty:

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=405

I used in my NSW Xmas Case Swap. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=396

Cheers
Steve

 

[drsmurto]

Razz - i brewed a lager using only NS a month ago. On tap atm.

Was 95% pils, 5% melanoidin with NS used at 20, 10 and 5 mins to give me 36IBUs. Dumped onto a wyeast 2000 yeast cake.

Opening the bag of hops i was amazed at how different the aroma was compared to the likes of cascade and amarillo.

Interesting reading up on ideas of mixing NS with cascade.

And as far as getting IBUs from only late additions, i would love someone to confirm my initial tastings (maybe at the case swap). I think its a little harsh compared to other pilsners with up to 40IBUs......its still an easy drinking beer but something is out of whack. 8 AGs in an i still expect to nail every brew!

Cheers
DrSmurto

 

[drsmurto]

KOS - i dont add wheat or carapils to my pilsners and have never had any trouble holding the head all the way to the bottom of the glass. Only made 3 so far so i am no expert by any means but i figure using all grain and a clean glass solves all. Has so far.

 

[razz]

Razz, How do you go with a single malt brew with head formation / retention? I'm going to do a brew very similar yours to use up some NS but would probably put in a little wheat. I've never done a single malt hence the question.

Cheers

I've done a few single malt beers over the years, generally I don't have a problem with head retention. Although the head on my pale beers are not as stubborn on beers using dark malts. Even the two CAP's I made this year, with 25% flaked rice, kept a good head.

 

[milpod]

Ok, tried ns in a 3068 @ 50 mins.into boil.I kept in style @ around 19 ibu's,but it just wasn't balanced.

The ns aroma/flavour tended to overpower the subtle characteristics of the 3068.

The exact one i made next to it,has all the character I like in a hefeweizen.


I think I'll continue the German beers,as a style nazi.

Worth exploring.Cheers

 

[KoNG]

Not a fan! It's seriously about the only hop i don't like. Don't like knapstein and haven't enjoyed the few beers i've brewed with it. One thumb down.

 

[Thommo]

I can take it or leave it.

I've been offered a few beers with NS and they're nice, I'll drink 'em no worries. Not something I feel the urge to brew with though.

 

[bindi]

I love this hop. I first tried it last year with Ross NS Ale. For me its a hop that had to grow on me. Originally I thought it smelt and tasted like sweaty socks. I put that down to drinking it far too early. I also made a lager with it (ala Knappstein Lager) which turned out very tasty:

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=405

I used in my NSW Xmas Case Swap. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=396

Cheers
Steve

Thanks Steve :super: I made your lager from the recipes above and it's BLOODY FANTASTIC [sorry for shouting] :unsure:
I used the Swiss Lager yeast from Ross and fermented it at 10c,a rest when done, kegged and into CC [well it is a lager] can't wait to put this one on tap.
It's a winner.

 

[Batz]

Not a fan! It's seriously about the only hop i don't like. Don't like knapstein and haven't enjoyed the few beers i've brewed with it. One thumb down.

Ditto
Yet to taste a beer I like brewed with this hop,all about personal tastes hey?

Batz

 

[PostModern]

I think most people (Knappstein included) over-use the hop. One of the tastiest pale ales I have made used only 20g at flameout and it was enough. A nice hop, but imho should be used sparingly as the flavour and aroma are pretty prominant.