Moving To Biab

[fletcher]

hey guys,

1. am i able to stove-top a 19l batch? stove is electric flat top heatpad variety but quite powerful
2. what size pot would i need for this? 30l? or 25? just concerned about boil-off etc
3. what's the best software or programme to use to figure out all the boiling off, and the amount of ingredients i should be using for whatever beer? i have no idea how much grain and water volume and malt and hops (as well as types), for example, to figure out how to get my beer to taste

thanks!

 

[Diesel80]

hey guys,

1. am i able to stove-top a 19l batch? stove is electric flat top heatpad variety but quite powerful
2. what size pot would i need for this? 30l? or 25? just concerned about boil-off etc
3. what's the best software or programme to use to figure out all the boiling off, and the amount of ingredients i should be using for whatever beer? i have no idea how much grain and water volume and malt and hops (as well as types), for example, to figure out how to get my beer to taste

thanks!

have you read Nicks move to AG for $30 thread?. Pretty sure he lists what pot size is required etc.

I use Brewmate for software.
For boil off rates you will need to measure these yourself and dial them into your receipe.

Cheers,
D80

 

[fletcher]

i had a quick look through it. i'll look at it again, thank you.

is brewmate free? all good, i can search, i'm just being lazy. apologies

thanks for your reply!

 

[Nick JD]

It's difficult to get more than 20L boiling vigorously on a very good stove.

Pretty sure my big element is 2400W, and it boils 14L well - but that's a full noise.

 

[robbo5253]

I also have a flat stove top & one thing which you need to make sure is that your pot is flat bottomoed, I had one which raised up in the middle so there was not full contact to the hotplate & this made it a slow process! So just check your pot when you buy it.

Cheers

Robbo

 

[fletcher]

ah so for a 19l ferment volume, you don't think it's feasible on a stove top?

thanks robbo. yeah when i buy one, i'll make it a solid decent purchase (even if i spend a bit more $$)

 

[Nick JD]

ah so for a 19l ferment volume, you don't think it's feasible on a stove top?

thanks robbo. yeah when i buy one, i'll make it a solid decent purchase (even if i spend a bit more $$)

Get a 35L + pot and an element. It is possible to make 19L of beer in a 19L pot, but you need to boil over gravity.

 

[fletcher]

damn. i was hoping to be able to get about a 30l and that be adequate. element is fine but that adds a whole new level of cost for element + gas etc. either that or smaller brews i suppose -.-

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

I do up to 35L on the stove with 2 pots, originally with nick's stovetop biab method, now with the system linked in my signature. Post in the thread if you have any questions so all benefit. There are plenty of photos and when I'm able to brew again, I will update with better resolution photos.

My stove is a normal glass cooktop electrical stove, and no problems.

For one pot maxi-biab (rdevjun is your man), it'd be replicable onto stovetop method.

Goomba

 

[RdeVjun]

By all means use the 19L stockpot on your electric stovetop, IMO initially you'd want to follow the $30 All Grain / MiniBIAB (google it) threads for 12L batches, then when you're confident at that you can also make >23L batches in your 19L stockpot on the very same stovetop- google MaxiBIAB or follow the 20L Stovetop thread. (Or thereabouts...)
My advice is to test the stovetop before all else, should be able to boil the 19L pot with a little vigor. If not, work out how much you can spend on a kettle and do it.
Hope that helps! :icon_cheers:

 

[fletcher]

By all means use the 19L stockpot on your electric stovetop, IMO initially you'd want to follow the $30 All Grain / MiniBIAB (google it) threads for 12L batches, then when you're confident at that you can also make >23L batches in your 19L stockpot on the very same stovetop- google MaxiBIAB or follow the 20L Stovetop thread. (Or thereabouts...)
My advice is to test the stovetop before all else, should be able to boil the 19L pot with a little vigor. If not, work out how much you can spend on a kettle and do it.
Hope that helps! :icon_cheers:

Thanks mate! Yeah gonna start out simple then pick it up. Thanks a bunch. I'll probably have about a thousand more questions on brew day

 

[flano]

yep go with Nicks technique it works a treat. Do it religiously.
Just be aware that if you are married there is a fair chance the missus will snap a brain at the stench.
mine did.
I now brew outdside and am lovin it!

Can I also make a little suggestion.
Those one grain brews seem to get a slight sour taste for me ...have no idea why.
If I add about 200 grams of dark crystal it gets rid of the sourness and also gives the beer a nice smokey sort of flavour. Adjust the recipe to the same grain weight.

maybe someone can tell me why I get the sour taste?

 

[fletcher]

thanks for the tips Flano.

could i ask anyone who'd be bothered to answer, what their favourite SMaSH beer is? i'm keen to try a nice simple recipe for starters then work my way up. i'm a fan of MANY kinds of beers. preferences are dry lagers, pale ales...****, anything really. something simple and not too overly dark or heavy kind if it can be helped. i'd try the one in the $30 AG thread but i don't like the POR hop as much as those i've tasted with more international/european style flavours/aromas.

 

[yum beer]

100% pilsener, mash at 62C for 90 minutes.
Saaz boiled 60 minutes to 30 - 35 IBU
Ferment with 34/70 at 11c and leave to settle in fridge for 3-4 weeks.

Throw in a decoction to achieve mash out.

Yum

 

[bruce86]

100% munich1 mashed at 66deg for 60min
halleratu 60min to 20 ibu
" " 20min to 4 ibu
ferment with any lager yeast munich if possible. at about 10 deg

if u cant get haller use hersbrucker instead had good results with both

 

[pk.sax]

Have not done a smash beer. Did do a cascade only ipa. 160g cascade flowers went in a single batch. Lovely beer.

Malt bill was pretty much pale malt 3 kg, wheat 1 kg, probably Half a kilo of crystal. Can't rem these exactly. Bittering was to 100 something ibus at 40-60 mins and then a flavour addition at 5 minutes.

 

[QldKev]

damn. i was hoping to be able to get about a 30l and that be adequate. element is fine but that adds a whole new level of cost for element + gas etc. either that or smaller brews i suppose -.-

Get an old retired keg and add a HWS or uxcell element. Thow in a bag and a tap and you have a basis for a great brewery.

QldKev

 

[fletcher]

thanks for the recipes everyone! i'll look to get some grain over the next week and get BIABing. very psyched.

just for my clarification, decoction is where you have a separate pot of water boiling alongside your mash and slowly add it to the wort over the course of the mash right?

1. 55c for 20 mins (prot rest)
2. add boiling water to achieve 65-68c for 45 mins (sacc rest)
3. add boiling water to achieve mash out temp of 74-76 and leave for 10 mins before starting the boil?

god damn i'm getting addicted to this. i can't wait.

 

[Nick JD]

thanks for the recipes everyone! i'll look to get some grain over the next week and get BIABing. very psyched.

just for my clarification, decoction is where you have a separate pot of water boiling alongside your mash and slowly add it to the wort over the course of the mash right?

1. 55c for 20 mins (prot rest)
2. add boiling water to achieve 65-68c for 45 mins (sacc rest)
3. add boiling water to achieve mash out temp of 74-76 and leave for 10 mins before starting the boil?

god damn i'm getting addicted to this. i can't wait.

Infusion. Decoction is removing and boiling part of the mash and returning it.

 

[fletcher]

aha. cheers nick. guess i'll have to read up more :s

i'm a bit confused but i'm sure i can google it somewhere