Mountain Goat Steam Ale Clone

[Yob]

[edit] Dave also said that the hop additions/balance can change from batch to batch

you know... I noticed this and believe this t be true... I said to SWMBO that the latest batch just wasnt all there (On Tap at the Old Local in Richmond Vic)... she said I was mad.. but.. there was a batch a little while ago I almost went mad for... doesnt help on a Wednesday morning :lol: but lovely on a Tuesday night with a few games of pool h34r:

ooooh if it werent for me doubble egg and bacon with hot english mustard at 9:30am I wouldnt make it through the day :lol:

Yob

 

[Vanoontour]

Alrighty, been having a bit more of a think on this one. Have decided against bittering with POR as I can't be assed buying yet another hop, I'm only new to this and don't have heaps to choose from like some may. So I have come up with this

Mountain Goats SAC

California Common Beer
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 15.0
Total Grain (kg): 3.447
Total Hops (g): 48.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.050 (P): 12.4
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.91 %
Colour (SRM): 3.5 (EBC): 6.8
Bitterness (IBU): 29.5 (Average - No Chill Adjusted)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 90

Grain Bill
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2.585 kg Pilsner (75%)
0.862 kg Wheat Malt (25%)

Hop Bill
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8.0 g Citra Pellet (11.1% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
5.0 g Citra Pellet (11.1% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
5.0 g Hallertau Mittlefrueh Pellet (6.3% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil) (0.3 g/L)
5.0 g Galaxy Pellet (13.4% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.3 g/L)
5.0 g Hallertau Mittlefrueh Pellet (6.3% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.3 g/L)
10.0 g Citra Pellet (11.1% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop) (0.7 g/L)
10.0 g Galaxy Pellet (13.4% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop) (0.7 g/L)


Single step Infusion at 66C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 18C with Safale US-05

Recipe Generated with BrewMate

Thoughts, Cheers.

 

[super_simian]

I think your OG might be a bit high.

 

[Jace89]

Wont make a MG clone, but it should be close enough! Either way your gonna make a nice easy drinking beer that will taste great...be sure to let us know how it goes!

 

[Vanoontour]

Well its mashing now so lets see how it goes. Why is the high OG an issue, I can dilute it before going in the FV if required but would like a reason?

Cheers, Dan

 

[Jace89]

I think simian was saying the OG is a little high compared to what the Steam Ale would be. I wouldn't bother diluting unless you wanna.

 

[super_simian]

Yeah, I thought you wanted it to be a clone, as in so close as to be indistinguishable. But this is more like an 'inspired by' - and there's nothing wrong with that. Although, on the 'clone' line of thinking, you will need to ferment low (15/16C?) to emulate Mountain Goat...and lower the OG to aim for a finishing ABV of 4.5%. But since you haven't got the identical hop bill anyway, just do what makes you happy. I was just confused by the term clone.

 

[Vanoontour]

Just put this into secondary and must say I'm quite impressed for my 3rd brew ever. Colour is slightly lighter than intended but the flavour, although slightly raw or unconditioned, is pretty damn close for my noob palette. All up, I'm a happy little brewer!!

As an aside, sg into secondary was exactly 1.010.

Cheers for the help, Van O

 

[time01]

bringing up an old thread as im keen to try this in the next week or 2.
anyone else had further success or advice to recipes in thread?

 

[syl]

I have! Got the recipe from mountain goat and posted in here somewhere - will dig up a link!

ed: http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/75095-mountain-goat-steam-ale/

I brew it semi regularly to have on tap for the missus.

 

[time01]

Thanks syl! Will add this to the list

 

[Tahoose]

Yep it's now on my to-brew list also, have citra en- route and some galaxy flowers which were an impulse buy. Might even throw in a touch of vic secret.

 

[syl]

So my current version is this:

Recipe: Mountain Goat Steam Ale TYPE: All Grain
Style: American Pale Ale
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 5.1 EBC SRM RANGE: 9.8-27.6 EBC
IBU: 0.0 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 30.0-45.0 IBUs
OG: 1.044 SG OG RANGE: 1.045-1.060 SG
FG: 1.010 SG FG RANGE: 1.010-1.015 SG
BU:GU: 0.000 Calories: 427.1 kcal/l Est ABV: 4.5 %
EE%: 80.00 % Batch: 65.00 l Boil: 78.80 l BT: 60 Mins

---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS----------------

Amt Name Type # %/IBU
34.34 ml Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -
34.00 ml Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -

Total Grain Weight: 11.50 kg Total Hops: 258.00 g oz.
---MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<<
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10.06 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) ( Grain 3 87.5 %
1.44 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 Grain 4 12.5 %


Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Protein Rest Add 57.01 l of water at 57.5 C 55.0 C 15 min
Saccharification Heat to 67.0 C over 15 min 67.0 C 45 min
Protein Rest 2 Heat to 72.0 C over 10 min 72.0 C 10 min
Mash Out Heat to 78.0 C over 4 min 78.0 C 10 min



---BOIL PROCESS-----------------------------
Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.039 SG Est OG: 1.044 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 5 -
35.00 g Citra [11.90 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
35.00 g Galaxy [13.90 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
35.00 g AU Cascade [7.90 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs

Dry hops:

51.00 g               Citra [11.90 %] - Dry 2.0 days          Hop           6        0.0 IBUs      
51.00 g               Galaxy [13.90 %] - Dry 2.0 days         Hop           7        0.0 IBUs      
51.00 g               AU Cascade [7.90 %] - Dry 2.0 days      Hop           8        0.0 IBUs

NOTE IBU's: I do a hop stand post boil for ALL kettle additions here as per MG recommendation and go to around 23 IBU's. I have found for no-chill on my gear 12 minutes is the correct setting on BeerSmith for my desired results, so check AA's and do the same.

I swapped out Motueka for Cascade to make it more palatable for me, the missus didn't even notice!

 

[Tahoose]

I no chill any way so I'll just chuck them in the cube.

This recipe has come at a good time as I have just run out of ale malt, still have pils and wheat handy though.

 

[syl]

I no chill any way so I'll just chuck them in the cube.

This recipe has come at a good time as I have just run out of ale malt, still have pils and wheat handy though.

LOL same with me this week! Just did a pacific ale and this both wheat n pils!

 

[Tahoose]

Giving this a go today.

 

[syl]

Awesome! It goes down a treat, I will put one down post grand final to restock my supplies of easy summer beers!

 

[Dan Pratt]

This beer runs in a similar line to my Golden Ale series that was using Ale and Wheat malt as the only grist and various hop combos.

After having MGSA on tap and then taking home a 6er, I think I can make a beer similar and as refreshing.

http://www.goatbeer.com.au/the-beer/steam-ale/

The wesbite shows Citra & Cascade to 22ibu and 4.5% - I had only planned a 17ibu and 4.1% but I think it will be upped to meet the spec.

Here is my recipe.

OG - 1.042
FG - 1.008
ABV - 4.5%
IBU - 22
EBC - 6

75% Pilsner ( have GP Ale malt and the colour difference is about 2 ebc so I may just use that )
25% Wheat

Mashed @ 64c/45m, 73c/20m, 78c/30m

Gypsum - 8g

Citra/Cascade @ 10m - 10ibu
Citra/Cascade @ 5m - 12ibu

Fermented @ 16c for 5days with WLP001 then ramp up to 20c and dry hop with Citra/Cascade 3g/l for 5days.

B)

 

[Tahoose]

Have my second go at this in the fermenter atm, the first batch had to be tipped after bit of a brain fade.

High hopes as I'll be taking a party keg of this to the work Xmas party next month.

 

[MitchD]

Are all of these recipes for no chill? I'm going to have a crack at this on Sunday and as i chill i wouldn't mind some clarification.