Little Creatures Brown Ale Recipe!

[Acasta]

Ive never done my own recipe before, this is a massive guess so don't rip me apart, but ill start from the blurb and post something.
Any advice, or better recipes would be great.

IBU of 48, anyone tried it have a color in mind?


Recipe: Little Creatures Brown
Brewer: Acasta
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Brown Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 26.33 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 39.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 48.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.50 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5Grain 66.0 %
0.50 kg Carared (Weyermann) (47.3 EBC) Grain 9.4 %
0.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 9.4 %
0.50 kg Munich II (Weyermann) (16.7 EBC) Grain 9.4 %
0.20 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 3.8 %
0.10 kg Chocolate Malt (Joe White) (750.6 EBC) Grain 1.9 %
10.00 gm Topaz [17.50%] (60 min) Hops 18.0 IBU
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (60 min) Hops 13.6 IBU
10.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (20 minHops 5.3 IBU
15.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (10 minHops 4.8 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (20 min) Hops 3.4 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (10 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
20.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (Dry HoHops -


Mash Schedule: My Mash
Total Grain Weight: 5.30 kg
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Notes:
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great Aussie hops; Tasmanian Hallertau and Cascade, in addition to Victorian Galaxy and Topaz. final bitterness is 48 IBU.
pale,munich,crystal...a touch of rye male for a bit of toastiness. A dash of chocolate malt

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[Acasta]

Bump. Anyone?

 

[Stuster]

Many things are a matter of taste. To me, that much crystal is too much. Personally I'd halve both of those, 10% crystal in all. I'd up the rye malt to more like 20% if it were my beer but since you are trying to go for their beer and they say just a touch, I think 10% would still be fine. (I'm not sure I pick up much spiciness from it, for me it's more about the mouthfeel and the malty backbone it adds.)

Hops look fine to me. Might be nice to have a touch of Galaxy late but that's just nit-picking. I guess you are using 001/1056/US-05. Hope that helps. Should be a nice beer.

 

[Acasta]

Yeah i will be using US-05 i guess. Ok i might add some galaxy in their too then, dry or late boil?

Also, have u tasted their brown? Ill take back the crystal back a bit too then.

EDIT:
Heres with your suggestions:
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.50 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5Grain 64.8 %
0.75 kg Munich II (Weyermann) (16.7 EBC) Grain 13.9 %
0.50 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 9.3 %
0.25 kg Carared (Weyermann) (47.3 EBC) Grain 4.6 %
0.25 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 4.6 %
0.15 kg Chocolate Malt (Joe White) (750.6 EBC) Grain 2.8 %
10.00 gm Topaz [17.50%] (60 min) Hops 18.0 IBU
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (60 min) Hops 13.5 IBU
10.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (20 minHops 5.3 IBU
15.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (10 minHops 4.7 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (20 min) Hops 3.4 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (10 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
20.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (Dry HoHops -

 

[Stuster]

Yeah, I had a couple of bottles and on tap at Harts, with the tap beer being a lot nicer than the bottled beer to me. More hop character it seemed.

I thought it was more of a session beer, and that's why I thought that was perhaps a bit too much crystal. To me that last one looks better. I think you could easily leave the hops and see how that works. Even if it doesn't make an exact copy, I'd say that would make a good beer. Then you'll have to try again and again to get it just right. Experimentation is so hard.

 

[Acasta]

haha HAVING to drink beer! I just wanna make sure the recipe will make some sort of beer that is ok, as its my first recipe.
Also, I dunno if i can get topaz, what would be a good substitute? I was thinking of just upping the galaxy.

 

[Alex T]

Hey,

We used around about that same quantity of crystal. Probably a touch less chocolate malt - tried to get the colour without getting too roasty. Rye was a fair bit less than that - but did also include some CaraRye..... We hadn't brewed with rye before, but I think it did give the beer a very dry edge in the beginning - now it has all rounded out quite nicely (and actually think has gotten better with age).

Hallertau and Topaz were bittering and late kettle hop; cascade, galaxy and some topaz for the hopback.

Hope it goes well! I'm sure it will - after all, it is just beer!

Cheers,

Alex

 

[Stuster]

We used around about that same quantity of crystal.

His initial idea or my suggestion?

 

[Acasta]

Wow, thanks alot mate!
Im really amature at this, could you put a recipe together for me? Im really amature, but would LOVE to be able to come close to this beer!

 

[bum]

Maybe if you could go around and brew it for him too?

 

[Acasta]

Well bum, whats wrong with asking someone for help on a recipe? Is that REALLY so much to ask? I mean why are we here? To know everything already?

Heres a revised one to your advice Alex, hows this look?


Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.50 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5Grain 65.4 %
0.75 kg Munich II (Weyermann) (16.7 EBC) Grain 14.0 %
0.25 kg Caramel Rye (Weyermann) (69.0 EBC) Grain 4.7 %
0.25 kg Carared (Weyermann) (47.3 EBC) Grain 4.7 %
0.25 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 4.7 %
0.25 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 4.7 %
0.10 kg Chocolate Malt (Joe White) (750.6 EBC) Grain 1.9 %
10.00 gm Topaz [17.50%] (60 min) Hops 18.0 IBU
15.00 gm Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50%] (60 minHops 13.1 IBU
15.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (10 min) Hops 7.4 IBU
10.00 gm Topaz [17.50%] (10 min) Hops 6.5 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (10 min) Hops 4.1 IBU
10.00 gm Galaxy [13.20%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Topaz [17.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -

 

[bum]

Upon my original reading of Alex's post I was preparing to write out a small post thanking him for how forthcoming he was with information. Then I read your post. Your post dragging your arse over his generosity.

I understand that the information might not be explicit enough for a novice brewer (like myself) but it might be better to ask experienced brewers here for guidance don't you think? You know, so Alex might still want to help other people in the future.

 

[Acasta]

I see where your coming from. Add it too your scoreboard or whatever you do.
I'd rather keep this on topic so please PM and we can discuss this further.

 

[Sydneybrewer]

:icon_offtopic: raoowww

 

[Acasta]

:icon_offtopic: raoowww

Thats what happens when people try to contribute, but have nothing helpful to say!

Anyway, from now on, back on topic!

Even if this recipe doesn't make LC brown, will it make a decent beer at least? I'd love some words of wisdom before i go ahead.

 

[Fourstar]

We used around about that same quantity of crystal. Probably a touch less chocolate malt - tried to get the colour without getting too roasty. Rye was a fair bit less than that - but did also include some CaraRye.....

Hallertau and Topaz were bittering and late kettle hop; cascade, galaxy and some topaz for the hopback.

I understand that the information might not be explicit enough for a novice brewer (like myself) but it might be better to ask experienced brewers here for guidance don't you think? You know, so Alex might still want to help other people in the future.

here you go, knowing that LC and WR like weyermann maltz. :icon_cheers:

75% JW Ale
10% Weyermann Munich
9% Weyermann Caramunich II
3% Weyermann Rye
2% Weyermann Cararye
1% JW Chocolate malt

15 IBU Hallertau @ 60 min
15 IBU Topaz @ 60 min
5 IBU Hallertau @ 5 min
5 IBU Topaz @ 5 min

10g Galaxy @ Flameout
10g Cascade @ Flameout
5g Topaz @ Flameout

 

[Acasta]

Thanks Fourstar! The additions at flame out, just wondering 2 things. Are the for a 23L brew? And how would i go about doing these additions, im going to no-chill, so i was thinking of dry hopping or something.

 

[Fourstar]

Thanks Fourstar! The additions at flame out, just wondering 2 things. Are the for a 23L brew? And how would i go about doing these additions, im going to no-chill, so i was thinking of dry hopping or something.

yep, 23 L

For NC i'd add the 5 min at flame out and the flame out i'd add them to the cube or whirlpool. flameout hops are generally added to the kettle for me when NC'ing at around 75deg then whirlpooled, rested and racked to the cube.

 

[Acasta]

Alright, i think i got this first recipe down, thanks for the help from you guys! Ill report back when its done.

 

[Acasta]

Reporting back, just had a bottle now. Tastes pretty good, however definitely needs more late hops so i put together a new recipe.

Thoughts?

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5Grain 71.4 %
0.60 kg Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 10.7 %
0.57 kg Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 10.2 %
0.20 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 3.6 %
0.17 kg Caramel Rye (Weyermann) (69.0 EBC) Grain 3.0 %
0.06 kg Chocolate Malt (Joe White) (750.6 EBC) Grain 1.1 %
10.00 gm Topaz [16.20%] (60 min) Hops 17.1 IBU
8.00 gm Topaz [16.20%] (15 min) Hops 6.8 IBU
8.00 gm Galaxy [14.00%] (15 min) Hops 5.9 IBU
15.00 gm Topaz [16.20%] (5 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
15.00 gm Galaxy [14.00%] (5 min) Hops 4.4 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.40%] (15 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.40%] (5 min) Hops 2.3 IBU
8.00 gm Galaxy [14.00%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
8.00 gm Topaz [16.20%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
17.30 gm Cascade [5.40%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -